After arriving in the United States from Somalia back in 2009, Fiqy never expected to be contacted by a major political campaign—yet Trump’s team reached out, asking him to help energize Somali-American voters before the election.
He took on the task with pride. But now, as a sweeping ICE operation targets Somali communities across the Twin Cities—and after hearing the president repeat harsh, blanket remarks about Somalis—Fiqy says his support has collapsed.
“How could anyone have predicted this?!?”
You’re shocked the most openly racist president since Andrew Johnson hates Somalis, people from Africa?
Everyone needs to be called out by name for them to understand, I guess. Put two and two fucking together, America.
the most openly racist president since Andrew Johnson
That honor goes to Woodrow Wilson, especially since he was president during a supposedly more enlightened time.
if only they’d voted jill stein everything would have been ok
Any black person supporting an outspoken racist like Trump is just fucking stupid.
I know a gay Trump supporter. He’s ecstatic about what’s going on and I know I have better people to give a shit about if he ever gets hauled away.
Why the racist comment?
Any person supporting Trump is just fucking stupid.
I don’t think it’s racist to point out that someone who is a member of a group that Trump has been explicitly racist against is extra dumb for supporting them. I don’t think anyone should support the guy but I only oppose him out of a sense of empathy and sympathy. This guy is extra dumb because he shouldn’t be a supporter out of sheer self interest.
because anybody non-white was obviously being targeted
It’s now literal US government policy that if you talk about “Equality” you will be fired by the government.
There’s a word for somebody that doesn’t support equality of rights: its a segregationist.
Well, I wouldn’t directly call it racist. It would have been the same if the Orange would have promised to sell Alaska back to the Russians and an Alaskan still voted for him.
Or a person who likes democracy and freedom voted…oh well…shit…I show myself out.
His comments on Haitians weren’t a clear enough signal? JFC, you dense assholes.
He literally did similar comments DURING HIS FIRST TERM about Somalis as well… But…people have the attention span of a TikTok Video these days.
The minorities who supported Trump need to be studied as the most fucking stupid, lacking any self preservation whatsoever, people to have ever lived.
The fact these people ever made it to voting age without forgetting how to breathe, or running to an electrical socket with a fork is nothing short of a reality breaking anomaly.
They think “Now that my family and I got in, let’s pull the ladder and fuck the rest. As long as I am good, others can fucking die.”
I.e. garbage people.
They think “Now that my family and I got in, let’s pull the ladder and fuck the rest. As long as I am good, others can fucking die.”
That sounds like the voting pattern of US Hispanics.
“Why, I didn’t think the Nazis would round me up, the people who helped them!”
“They’re not going to eaty MY face.”
I have a very hard time feeling sympathy for a bunch of people who voted against their own best interests. Anyone who didn’t see this coming, needs to wake the fuck up, and start paying attention. It’s not like he was hiding who he was. Anyone with half a brain should have been able to see this coming all the way back to when Obama was still in office.
Not defending the idiots, but I think social media played a far significant role in brainwashing people than we realise. The stupid social media algorithms corral them to seeing only certain contents and distort their world view. I wonder what social media showed to the non-white people to even support Trump. I hava poc colleagues who seemed to trivialise and have casual approach to Trump, with one stating “some of the things he says makes sense.” I wonder what those things “makes sense” from poc point of view. Even before Trump 2.0 came, I have disliked him for being fascist-adjacent. Now, that the mask is off, people thought that he’d stay with his far-right adjacent policies in his first term, and they lived to regret fucking around and finding out.
sounds like you are defending them. it wasn’t as if Trump was being coy about it. He created a muslim ban. He said “They are eating the pets.”
All this stuff he said in public, live on TV. Using social media as a source of news just shows you are dumb.
All this stuff he said in public, live on TV. Using social media as a source of news just shows you are dumb.
The number of people of tuning in to TV are decreasing as time goes. Social media is the new source of information, which sounds paradoxical because you aren’t getting news if the information is curated and corralled depending on your browsing activity. And dismissing the role of social media sounds exactly like what I said in my initial comment that people underestimate its role in polarisation.
if a lot of people started voting by flipping a coin the fact a lot of people do it doesn’t change that it’s a dumb process.
I am not saying social media isn’t used. i am saying that isn’t an excuse for saying “we didn’t know we were shooting ourselves in the foot.” Watch the debates, watch the press confrences, listen to him live whenever he speaks. Trump doesn’t hide his hatred for minorities and foreigners. If you go on social media and are told different then you deserve what you get.
Tell that to people, not to me. And there is a reason as to why there is a push to regulate social media precisely because of algorithms sheep-herding people.
People are already inundated and tired by the hecticness of modern life. They have to think about rent, or mortgage, putting food on the table, and their bills, and their family. They don’t have time to do the necessary research. This fact is exploited by powers-that-be and the more tired a person is, the more susceptible they are to psychological manipulation. They go home tired and want to unwind by scrolling he social media or watch TV to kill time. They are tired, they don’t have time to do due research, and they are easily manipulated. The people are merely exploited. While yes, people deserve what they get for voting against their interest, they are exploited. Would you lay blame squarely to trafficked immigrants who agreed to work undocumented and paid less than the minimum wage because of their predicament, despite already being well known that undocumented work never turns out well?
This is true Leopards Ate My Face material. Anyone who supported Donny 2 Inches, and helped him gain power, CANNOT be hurt enough !
You knew he was a snake when you picked him up.
Absolute fucking idiots. I used to live near Dearborn and a lot of the more conservative segments of the Muslim community gave me similar vibes. How dumb can you be? Kicking your asses out, at best, is the selling point of the candidate you’re voting for?? Okay…
I find minorities and women who support Trump generally are not only some of the dumbest fucking people you’ll ever meet in your life, but also very often narcissistic and mentally/emotionally unstable.
Virtually all of them are mentally and often physically abusive to people around them, and they’re constantly trying to control every situation they’re in, even if they have no business nor authority doing so.
Trump is exactly that, so most see themselves in Trump.
It’s usually becase of their stand on gay/trans issues.
Apparently what other people do with thier genitals is top of mind for many “conservatives”.
Coming next: Person buys bottled water. Is surprised to find water inside.
✨ Have the day you voted for ✨
Ahahahaha fucking garbage people.
Yes, if you voted for a rapist, you are 100% garbage.
Ahahahaha fucking garbage people.
Yes, if you voted for a rapist, you are 100% garbage.
Wow, one article about one guy has got you quoting fascist memes.
I’m not here to agree or disagree with either of you, but to plead that you not refer to everything that exists online as “a meme”.
I think we need to understand the rational reasons immigrants that are entering as a minority into this country might adopt rightwing/conservative beliefs.
Inequality, colonialism as a tactic to police the behavior of populations, fascism and hate REQUIRE the even more vulnerable to be turned against the vulnerable or else it all falls apart.
What the specific levers that are that are used to get immigrants to vote against their own interests whether it be fear, manipulation, lies or threats is less interesting than the fact that this entire structure of oppression can be shattered by simple, meaningful unjudgemental solidarity with one another as average human beings who want the same basic things.
I think we need to understand the rational reasons immigrants that are entering as a minority into this country might adopt rightwing/conservative beliefs.
Your following paragraphs don’t really explain what the rational reasoning is, just that it’s required. What are they?
I tried to make sense of that, uh, word salad, and kinda boiled it down to this:
What the specific levers are … is less interesting than the fact that this entire structure of oppression can be shattered by simple, meaningful unjudgemental solidarity…
And if that’s OP’s point, well, I think the past year has proved that it’s not true. The system of fascism is not vulnerable to solidarity and tolerance. In 2024, vulnerable voters rejected the idea that they are vulnerable and did not vote accordingly. Instead they looked at even more vulnerable people and said “Well at least I’m not that guy! That’ll never happen to me because I’m not (insert prejudice here).”
We can blame the propaganda machines of Fox and Facebook and Joe Rogan, and they deserve their share of the blame, but I firmly don’t believe Trump voters were merely duped. I think they already believed in a social hierarchy where, among their few luxuries, they get to look down on other people. They came to America, in their eyes the most powerful country on the planet, so regardless of how they got there, they were already more special than their homeland counterparts. They carried with them their prejudices, their views on women, their views on crime, homelessness, and joblessness, and conservative media tapped into those beliefs to form the backbone of their disinformation campaign.
the rational reasons immigrants … might adopt rightwing/conservative beliefs
In short, they didn’t “adopt” anything, they brought their own nascent bigotry with them.
In short, they didn’t “adopt” anything, they brought their own nascent bigotry with them.
having interacted with some in these communities, living around them and having my kids go to school with them, your comment here is so on point. it is constantly a shock when you see bigotry pop up so casually and i think to myself those who want you out of this country are using the exact same language.
those who want you out of this country are using the exact same language
They’re blind to this because in their minds, the boundary in the social hierarchy for arrest and deportation (read: kidnapping and human trafficking), is somewhere below their current ranking. All those terrible things are only meant to happen to my lessers, not me. I’m one of the good ones.
I’m sorry to hear that you speak from experience, because I speak from experience too. There were many off-ramps from the highway of crazy, and I think with each passing one it becomes more difficult for cult followers to deal with the shame of admitting they were wrong. They’re in so deep now, I think they’ll go to their graves with it.
honestly i don’t give them that much credit. between religous and cultural based hate, the concept of “we are the good ones” means they would have to see themselves in a potential group that could be kicked out. they don’t. they see the nuance of their social structure and it never dawns on them that Trump only sees their skin color.
I never really understood the idea that these people are ashamed. Voting is private, nobody needs to know who you votée for, in fact you can say you voted for X bût voted Y
I don’t mean like, peer pressure shame. I mean inner shame, psychological shame. The angst of not being to internally reconcile opposing value systems. Like “I want to be treated fairly, but what if someone treats me badly the same way I treat others?” Cultists, narcissists, bullies, live in fear of the answer to this question, which forms the basis of their internal shame.
The cognitive dissonance that Trump voters have is like a debt that accrues interest, and shame is a measure of the total balance of debt. The way you pay down a debt starts by acknowledging the objective reality of having that debt, and giving something up in return.
A normal person, when faced with shame of a manageable scale, handles it by apologizing for wrongdoing, offering a conciliation gift, changing the way they behave and the values they believe in, that kind of thing. Trump voters are incapable of this, as they seemingly don’t acknowledge the debt in the first place. Which means their debt is always growing, the stakes are always rising. Eventually they pass an event horizon, where they believe reconciliation is no longer possible and the only two options are 1) cling tighter to the beliefs, or 2) end their lives, often violently, often with intentional collateral damage.
As I read it, their argument is that fascism can only be sustained if a sizable number of people who would suffer under fascism actively support it.
If only the tiny minority of elites that benefits from fascism actually supported it, it wouldn’t be near the level of popularity necessary to be sustainable.
