• Credibly_Human@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    This isn’t even satire, this is just the majority of gun owners.

    There are 2 types of gun enthusiasts.

    AR15 colllectors and gun collectors.

    The AR15 collectors literally just masturbate about shooting an unarmed minority legally and play obstruction whenever there are criticisms.

    The gun collectors are a much smaller collection of people who think guns are pretty cool.

    I’m only ok with one of these 2 types of people having guns, but the AR15 folks outnumber them massively.


    Just to be clear, when I refer to AR15 folks, I mean the gravy seals. The tacticool collectors who collect gear based on fantasies of killing unarmed minorities legally for literally any reason at all. They aren’t into guns for their history, mechanisms or anything like that. They’re into guns as an identity and means to inflict pain upon groups they hate.

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    It’s gonna be cops breaking into your house… and then they’re allowed to kill you because you have a gun.

    But if you shoot back and dont die you’re going to jail forever

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      Well, it depends. You can absolutely shoot cops in self defense if they do something like a no knock raid, which they love to do these days

      Now, do you make it out of the situation alive, and win in court? That’s a coin flip

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    Living in South Africa, I had to reluctantly get a gun, hate it but after they shot my neighbours leg off through her daughter’s window I knew I had no choice because I had 3 other women living with me.

    I will call it a successful gun ownership if I never have to use it, I really do not wish to be placed in that situation.

    Having seen people be killed by firearms in front of me, the police’s apathy as they were giggling at me when they saw my red eyes and saying it’s what rural poor people do (I think it was their way of comforting me).

    Some gun owners are reluctant owners, but really when you have as high a violent crime and murder rate as we do, you have to make a difficult choice.

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      I will call it a successful gun ownership if I never have to use it

      This describes the overwhelming majority of firearms owners I’ve interacted with, including some with sizable collections and even a police officer on the SWAT team.

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    To date I still find it incredibly weird how the US normalised bloodlust and murderous intent to the point where a considerable chunk of the country considers it their patriotic duty to protect their rights to keep weapons primarily intended for killing while presenting obvious signs of mental instability - as depicted.

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      Ever learn about “the shot heard around the world”?

      The country was literally born from a rebellion that reached a violent tipping point when the monarchy tried to confiscate/destroy munitions.

      as depicted

      The “depiction” you refer to is a caricature. While I’m certain there are people like this out there, this is not what the majority of firearms owners are actually like.

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        While I’m certain there are people like this out there, this is not what the majority of firearms owners are actually like.

        Having seen gun forums, unedited public range footage, private range footage, seminars, which guns sell best etc etc, I simply think this is a lie you tell yourself to support what you already believe.

        The average gun owner in the US is very much so like this image. Maybe not as many guns, but absolutely the same mentality.

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        So you need an armed working class for what exactly? To watch Trump dismantle your democracy? You probably don’t need guns if you are just watching anyway 🤣

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              Allowed? Governments can only regulate, they can’t allow people to do things because they simply don’t have the ability to bestow rights, which people intrinsically possess. Anyway, I’ve looked into it but the upkeep is shocking. There’s a reason that one dude just encased a bulldozer in concrete.

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                You must be fucked in the head to presume that you intrinsically possess any kind of rights.

                Rights are a societal contract, an agreement between the people of what one might do and what one might not - and of course what the repercussions are for doing something that one is not allowed to.

                For something to be intrinsic, it has to exist naturally - such as, your hair colour, skin colour, etc. would be intrinsic. Rights aren’t.

                And yes, in fact, it IS the government’s role to determine the rights of people (legislative branch), ensure that people stay within those rights (executive), and provide a commonly acceptable interpretation of those rights (judicial).

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    GOD… PLEASE HAVE SOMEONE BREAK INTO MY HOUSE

    someone breaks into the dude’s house, attracted to the valuable arsenal; promptly seizes one of the guns and uses it against the owner; loots all of them, stepping over the owner slowly bleeding out on the floor

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    Exactly. I’ve seen this exact sentiment several times. “When someone breaks into my home…” They are certain it will happen, it’s just a matter of when.

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        “Ding-dong-ditch once again ends in tragedy…”

        Or my favorite of all time, when someone (often a teenager) who’s lost or scared comes up to a door and the occupant shoots them rather than help.

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    This is a valid criticism of all hobbies tbf of course the problem with guns is that theyre for killing. I like knives but that means i get excited when i can open a package or cut something up in the garden, not that i want to plug someone in the head with a handheld canon.

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      I mean… Have you shot many guns?

      They’re really fun to shoot things with. I love the metal targets that go plink when you hit them, it’s cool hitting something so far away you can barely see it

      Shooting is just fun, just like throwing knives or axes. You don’t have to have any intention to use it for violence, or even own one yourself

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      Some of us just like sport shooting. If someone does break into my house they’re gonna get perforated, but that doesn’t mean I want it to happen. Shit like that is traumatizing and therapy is expensive.

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        No they won’t.

        If you’re a good gun owner, your guns are locked away in such a way that you can’t do proper home defense. Unless you’re walking around your house in underwear and a holster.

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          Thats only true if you have kids. There are no federal requirements for how you store your guns when not in use. If you dont have kids or strangers around, you can keep things like pistols on wall racks, loaded and ready to go. I for example, live way out in the sticks. If I call the cops, it takes a minimum of 20 minutes before anyone gets here. My nearest neighbors are also a couple miles away. So, if someone breaks in I have a 20 minute window with zero help. Call 911, then call .357

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            Fair point. But even in the city, cops are just there to document your losses after the fact. Unless you end up in a hostage situation, they’re not doing anything during the crime.

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          You have no idea what you’re talking about.

          There’s many options for bedside safes designed to let the owner get in quickly

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          The Heller decision would like a word with you

          If you’re a good firearm owner, your firearms are secured from unauthorized access. Plenty of ways to achieve that while keeping them readily accessible to the intended user for home defense, especially without children, housemates, or houseguests.

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            Exactly, Jim Jeffries had a hilarious bit about it but that gave anyone who heard it the wrong idea about secure storage.

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    I got a machete for that. I mean, I got the machete for yard work and used it for that but now I don’t have yard work anymore but still have the machete whose sole purpose is home defence in the extremely unlikely possibility that someone breaks into my house while I’m home.

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    the weird thing is…

    I’m okay with lots of blood, but I don’t like watching surgery. and yet I’m ok with stabbing somebody repeatedly in the vitals if they break into my house.

    you might ask 1st: why the fuck are you watching surgery?! because I have to, for my medical field training. why I have to watch human surgery when I’m planning to be a marine biologist, I have no idea. 2nd: what does surgery have to do with stabbing somebody? cause you’ll see their guts and stuff, and you see peoples guts in surgery too