I’m surrounded by them here in the south and i have zero sympathy for them. Many of their business’s are starting to slow or fail and i can only laugh at them.
In the south people choose their political party at birth and treat it like a sports team that they REFUSE to ever give up on. Self destruction is one of their favorite past times.
My cousins live in the south. They chose that area because, in their words, it’s “expensive” where I live.
Last week, they vented about the housing prices and groceries. Their house market is now the same price as the housing in my “expensive” area. But their area also has federal min wage at $7.25 an hour. Where my city is double.
This is their main issue. They always complained about paying property taxes in New York or some other northern state, but then also complain about the cost of housing, driving distances, car prices, and insurance. You also have to deal with politicians taking away your rights and passing shitty laws constantly that hurt you. So glad i don’t work retail anymore, hated hearing them complain about that crap.
Did they vote for Trump?
The people around here are so stupid. I talk about moving to MA or another North Eastern state and they’re like “The cost of living is so high there!” Yeah, it might be, but MA has some of the most progressive social safety nets and policies in the USA. The only thing I take grievances with are their restrictive gun laws. Other than that, no, MA looks far better than a shit stain red state I live in.
Yeah, it might be, but MA has some of the most progressive social safety nets and policies in the USA.
Like, not to knock MA, but your mileage really varies based on which neighborhood you’re in. The closer you come to NH, the worse things get. And Boston varies heavily by zip code, based on the prevailing income bracket.
Is the state better than West Virginia or Idaho or South Dakota? Sure. But its not some kind of paradise. You’re still in a heavily privatized and financialized capitalist hell-hole. You just live closer to the money, and that’s where we put all our nice things.
Yeah, know there’s variation even with where I live. Fair enough though, just that it’d be nice to have better job access than I do now. As well as generally better social safety nets. Had a friend be let go from a position in the area and while it took a while, his unemployment was like 80-90% of his income. Here, 40% is the best you get. The states I live in or nearby rely on a revolution of unemployment and employment for many people.
Think how much it’ll keep rising when he’s fighting simultaneous wars in Venezuela, Greenland, Cuba and Mexico.
“This is not what I voted for!” - cue Morgan Freeman: It was, indeed, exactly what they had voted for.
The only good fascist is a dead fascist.
Hopefully soon
They’re not gonna kill themselves, just sayin
Some might.
Suicide? Probably not. But, poverty can be deadly.
I always call them out when i can on social media, but they report my comment as misinformation and they get removed.
It’s about time to start putting up the “I did that stickers” all over the place like MAGA did with Biden.
No shit. Prices just went up to pay for an illegal overtaking of another country’s assets to satisfy already filthy rich oil barons at taxpayers expense. Wheeeeee!
Political power grows out of the seeds in the gardens (and in the fields…)
That “Wheeeeee!” made me laugh out loud. My wife loved it. Fucking great use 😎
I moved to rural America after living in the city. I just don’t understand why so many farmers have trump signs still up, it’s been a really tough year for farmers and he’s not helped them one bit
I also moved to a rural area after living in a city for 20 years, and there is a guy that lives near me that is a farmer and he has a giant hand made sign in his lawn that says “Unvaxed sperm is the next Bitcoin.” You just can’t underestimate how stupid people are. They’ll be nice to you in person and then just butt chug newsmax and racist Facebook memes.
It’s the one-two punch of poor education and the propaganda of our media environment.
“Home delivered freshly made”
“Directly from the producer”
The jokes on that one just write themselves.
Did he leave a phone number or Etsy link? The lawn sign guy…
They are hateful racists. It’s really that simple
Their racism is ancillary and it’s not that simple. MAGA exploits several rotten elements in rural American society; racism is just one of them
I think the simplest explanation is that they have been conditioned to hate and fear first and do not consider any person innately equal until that person has proven themselves to be worthy of value. To enter the American south, you walk into a minefield of social faux pas and a mire of shibboleths. You fucked up just by driving in with “Yankee” license plates. Hell, you can fuck up by having the wrong county on your plates (which is a thing in the south). For a group of people who hate anything “woke” or involving critical theory, they are a textbook example of intersectionality; their identity is complex and why they don’t like you is even more complicated.
They have been conditioned to distrust anything they don’t immediately understand, dwell peacefully in contradiction, be selectively empathic, and ignore their own self-interests whenever it does not exclusively benefit them. This is the “temporarily embarrassed millionaire” and “my true reward awaits in heaven” crowd. You can’t reason with them because they answer to a higher power and it’s all part of god’s plan. And if you make the mistake of quoting scripture at them, they write you off as a know-it-all who has read the Bible but hasn’t read it with your heart.
They are generationally impoverished, both financially and intellectually. The south suffers from massive brain drain and financially successful people are just those that God has blessed. There’s no charity for those outside of their immediate social circle. There’s no such thing as southern hospitality, just public manners. Bless your heart, they’re talking shit before you walk out the door.
Southern society craves authoritarianism and aristocracy because blind respect for authority and power are deeply rooted in their culture and religion (and that’s exactly what the antebellum south was; that’s their “heritage”). Trump promises to make it all great and lift them back into their rightful place because they all think they will be the plantation master.
don’t think of MAGA/Trumpism as a political movement. it’s a death cult
There’s one house in my neighborhood that still has a “TRUMP LOW PRICES | KAMALA HIGH PRICES” sign in their yard. The kicker is that it’s a black family and the house is in a subsidized housing development funded by the county. Just needs a “BEWARE OF FACE-EATING LEOPARDS” sign next to it.
Hammer a sign that says thatninto the ground next to it. Or, maybe write that on it with a sharpie?
100% they won’t understand what it means
That just makes it funnier for everyone else
Trump is bad for farming, but good on low capital gains taxes.
So people know that you were wrong and you voted for the braindead fat pedo racist? Better to double down
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Sunk cost: They’ve invested 40-60 years of their life programming their worldview with the propaganda.
Scapegoating: It’s not them and their bad choices, it’s the immigrants/democrats/poor siphoning off their resources
The state runs the media. The media informs the masses which people are the enemy/stupid, the masses join together to feel good that they’re not stupid. They put more money into campaign funds to buy signs from the government that’s holding them down, all while feeling self-righteous.
I had read somewhere that a significant part of that is the fact that the only media these people can consume for a large portion of their day is AM talk radio, which is chock full of right-wing propaganda.
IMO the talk radio/podcast fodder has always been the worst of it.
They know it’s opinion, but they suck it up like every statement is a verified fact. When you apply a little logic to it, they take it as a personal assault.
i knew it would be in the article at some point:
Yet Todd still says: “I voted for Trump. I don’t regret that. We’re God-fearing, conservative people.”
troompa loompas could literally be starving in the street, their whole family dying of polio or some other shit we thought we got rid of, and they’ll still sing the praises of the one who directly caused all their problems. because jesus, guns, and get rid of the brown people
This but unironically.
It’s called Sunk Cost Fallacy, a basic concept in economics that even explains how gambling addictions begin and why it’s so hard for people to stop until they’ve lost everything.
Exactly.
It’s a coping mechanism for having a purely emotional relationship (i.e. pure tribalism) with a political “side” that has now been going on for so long and so intensely that it has become part of their personal identity, and then being negativelly impacted by the choices of the leaders of “their” side.
By this point such people would have to accept that what is now a huge part of their personal identity is bullshit, and people with the psychological and intelectual maturity required to be able to accept something like that and move on wouldn’t have become tribalist muppets in the first place.
They will never, ever do that, rather what they do is invent excuses and deflections of blame.
Worst part is a modern US Jesus would be all eat-the-rich anti-establishment, founder of a commune (or several as he travels), and get killed “by accident” in an ICE raid.
Remember the Hermain Cain Award subreddit?
Hundreds of documented cases of people vehemently refusing real treatment for a ‘fake’ disease, being immensely cocky and belligerent untill very nearly the end, and then, near the end… still somewhere between defiant, in denial, and delusional.
… Those are the private citizens in the US with the vast majority of the guns.
You are completely correct, many areas of the US will collapse into pockets of highly armed, highly religious cults, utterly bereft of anything resembling logic, beyond the sociopathic logic of how to run a cult.
Basically, a couple of David Koresh’s for every county. Good luck!
I am convinced that gun owners should be required to carry gun insurance… (policies for every gun they own) and I say that as a gun owner… we have to carry car insurance, another lethal weapon that at least has a plausible other function. I live in a Blue State. Liberals also own guns, we just don’t post pictures of them or open carry them in public. We actually follow the laws of our state for permits.
Anybody who says “we’re a God fearing family” should be immediately locked up.
Firstly because it’s a meaningless platitude that doesn’t actually make sense, and secondly because it actually means “;-) I’m a Nazi, but obviously I would get offended if you ever actually called me out on it”.
No nice person has ever said that.
It kinda makes sense to me. If I believed in the judeo christian god - an omnipotent being that has a vengeful, murderous history and has the emotional maturity of a 3 yo - yes I’d be living in fear of it.
“I have no Ethics or Morals, so I only ever do the right thing because I fear the wrath of an All Knowing and All Powerful entity if I don’t”
You missed the second bit, which is
“All the time acting in a manner that does not in fact suggest that I actually believe in an all-knowing entity. But rather in a way that suggests that I am using religion as a shield for being the world’s worst person”
I don’t just mean that person, I mean anybody who would believe that “I’m a God fearing person” is actually the right thing to say.
I mean, if one thinks about it, it’s curious that anybody would openly states that their relation to one’s God is “Fear” rather than, say “Love”, even if they are being entirely truthful in that.
“God loving” sounds a lot more respectful of a Deity, IMHO.
Further, even for that specific person my point still fits in a twisted way: that person chose that specific expression because deep down they believe people only restrain their bad actions because of fearing retribution.
It’s a variant of Psychological Projection and thus still betrays that person’s moral makeup: even as non-believers they use the “Fear of God” mantra because they themselves think that claiming that one has one’s behavior under constant oversight from a deity which will punish bad behavior is the best way to convince others that one behaves in a good way, and they think so because they themselves restrict their negative behavior towards others through fear of external reprisal rather than through internal mechanisms such as guilt or a personal moral.
Even when people lie, you can still tell a lot about somebody by which lies they think will work best at convincing others.
Firstly because it’s a meaningless platitude that doesn’t actually make sense
The world runs on meaningless platitudes for these people!
I am not disagreeing with you; you’re very much correct. But I think it’s important to point out and not just let it pass by.
It’s all part of the talking point conditioning and conforming that the right leans on so heavily. You need to superficially signal the right virtues with your appearance and speech.
And that quote is why I laugh at these fucking idiots. I genuinely do not have the capacity to empathize with people who are so idiotically and uncritically dogmatic.
If you asked them what their dogma is and where it comes from, they wouldn’t have any reply. These people are narcissistic, unserious and willfully illiterate.
Well, they don’t know what dogma is
“It’s what Haitians eat” - conservatives,
probablyactually
This is how you know it’s a cult.
Jesus loved Rome and thought empire-building, pillaging and murdering were virtuous activities! 🙄 But this nonsense is exactly what these Burgers believe in. As always, their “religion” is just narcissistic performative nonsense, without submission to God.
Yeah, if you keep saying “no matter how much you hurt me, i am still going to keep voting you into power”, then you shouldn’t be surprised that they hurt you as much as they can.
Having a limit on something that you see as a deal breaker is necessary and good, yet these people see that as a weakness
This is the biggest difference between democrats and republicans… Republicans will vote, democrats wants purity on their ideals otherwise they don’t vote.
purity on their ideals otherwise they don’t vote.
and somehow too dumb to realize their immature reaction drastically hurts those ideals.
Yeh, it’s like some Kim Jong Il shit ngl. Remember how North Koreans wept when he died?
Except fear for their life was the clear motivator there. Couldn’t tell you what inspired these Americans to emulate them however. Maybe they’re playing the long game for the imminent dictatorship.
Nothing will change until MAGA Americans have to eat the shit sandwich they’ve been making.
Unfortunately, many of them will be unable (due to a combination of a lack of education and a steady diet of propaganda) to understand the source of their new rations.
They’re incapable of understanding, their tribalism is core to their identity.
Still cathartic to watch them eat it
Is schadenfreude still schadenfreude if you’re wading in the shit alongside them?
Yeah, I guess it is.
Basically. I hate MAGAts more than I walking through the shit pool they’re putting us through.
I want to be laughing but I, too, have lost my healthcare and I didnt even want the shitsack back.
Yeah it sucks to be sure. Hell, it’s probably even financially ruinous. But, at least we have the pleasure of watching them cry about it. Many of us voted against him because we knew this was coming, so it’s at least pleasurable to watch them suffer consequences. It’s like when a cartoon character steps on a rake and it bounces up to hit them in the face.
I am no longer getting pleasure or carthasis from this. I need the old white leeches to be choked with the bare hands of the people
Oh, the guillotines are coming, for sure. And, it will be a joyous day to see their blood wash away their filth. But, this is to help bridge the gap.
Yeah, who’s “they” in your glorified genocide?
Oh, the guillotines are coming, for sure.
I very much doubt that.
Americans are armed to the teeth, they’ve always pretended the staggering number of gun deaths in the US was a necessary evil to keep the government in check, yet now that they’re in the very situation for which they claimed they needed the guns, they ain’t using em.
Nothing is coming because there’s nothing to be expected of a nation of dumb racist hicks and pretend tough guys.
You’re confused. The people you’re talking about, the ones armed to the teeth and justifying gun deaths, are the same ones who voted for Trump and love what he’s doing. They’re giddy with joy about it. Why would they use their guns against the very government they wanted and voted for?
Wow, every country is going through a right wing attack of racist and greedy POS.
- UK- brexit
- Gernany - elections
- Canada - elections
- and so on
It doesn’t make me angry that you believe the entire country is like that, because obviously it’s kind of true. But please take care of your own trash as well.
This is irrelevant whataboutism.
Also, what makes you think I live in any of those countries?
What country do you live in?
every country is going through a right wing attack of racist and greedy POS
No shit, and expect all of the other countries to also get their Trumps. It’s not what I want but it lookes more and more real each day
And yes, I don’t live in US and I live in a country where right wing is not in full power yet, but getting more popular as of late
Oh, the guillotines are coming, for sure
Amerikkkans are not going to do shit.
Yeah, way too lazy
What the fuck? How exactly would that work? Even if the vast majority of gun owners wanted to kill Trump, the military would wipe the floor with them
Something tells me there’s a large overlap between gun owners and members of the military. But that’s not the issue, the issue is Americans are either complicit or complacent. Let’s see what their next excuse is after the mid-terms solve nothing.
That Venn includes white supremacists and actual antisemites… like KKK MFers.
A man with a hammer managed to break a window in the vice president’s house today. Imagine if he had even a handgun. These people are really just as vulnerable as the average person.
same, i earn too much for the state subsidized one(medi-cal, but the subsidies for the aca one has ended so i have none right now.
Get Fucked, Americans! LOLOLOL
They’re getting everything they voted for. I’m happy for hem! Congratulations you did it. Great job!
