He’s not saying he’s good because he’s a good father and husband, he’s citing those as evidence for him being a good conservative Christian, which is the only thing that matters to them. If you identify as exactly that you can do anything and still be a good person.
The rich have co-opted Christianity and the insane devotion its internal logic creates to build their perfect foot soldiers
But that’s not really true. If you are a trinitarian then what Yahweh said is also what Jesus said. But even so people apparently haven’t actually read their bible. Jesus was exclusionary, used racial slurs for tribes he didn’t like, told everyone to continue the same barbaric treatment found in the Old Testement.
With all the feeding and clothing the poor, and the
Whoever kidnaps a person, whether that person has been sold or is still held in possession, shall be put to death.
And the
You shall not oppress a resident alien; you know the heart of an alien, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt.
And the
Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it will be hard for a rich person to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”
I would argue a true Christian would be considered part of the “radical left” and that conservativism is an anathema to chistianity.
Why did you skip the part where Jesus said he is here to fulfill the law, not abolish it. That we must continue the old law that told you how to get slaves from the nations around you and how to properly beat them, or to kill a woman if she doesn’t bleed her first time. I think only those who haven’t actually studied the bible would think Jesus was this great guy.
No True Scotsman fallacy. Your logic breaks at assuming that people who call themselves Christian actually understand the teachings of Christ, and that such an understanding is necessary or germane to the question of whether or not someone is “Christian”. I don’t think you can seriously claim that the Spanish conquistadors were not Christian. Their Christian identity didn’t stop them from enslaving, oppressing, and getting VERY rich. Christian IS as Christian DOES.
I actually am seriously claiming that the Spanish conquistadors were not Christian. As enslaving, oppressing, and getting rich, are counter indicated by the bible. The inconsistency is not mine, it is the “followers” of the bible.
And I would contend that the bible is filled with so much random dogmatism, cruelty and insanity that it is literally impossible to follow it all faithfully. Saying “oh, no true Christian would do that” is literally a no true Scotsman fallacy. Christianity is a religious movement. It is defined by its members. Just because not everything every member does fits within the confines of a random text compiled by committee from apocryphal scraps of parchment and papyrus, that doesn’t mean that those members are not “Christian”. If I believe in any one tenet that Christ supposedly espoused, such as the weird eschatological shit, then I can call myself a Christian. Are you the ultimate arbiter of what makes a Christian, or are you just someone trying to make people fit neatly within or outside of a little box for the sake of argument? What do YOU think, oh oracle, makes someone a christian? The Nicene creed, or just those three scraps of text you quoted? The part about Babylon, mother of harlots, rising in the end times, as the seals open? Or perhaps following Leviticus, one of the greatest sources of strife, bigotry and cruelty in world history?
You seem pretty emotionally invested, so I will recommend that as I am not particularly invested, if it is easier for you, I give you total freedom to ignore my individual opinion. I’m just one man, feel free to ignore me. But what I’ve quoted is primarily direct quotes from Jesus (per the bible), or taken from Exodus, which is about as foundational as it gets Christianity wise.
I agree that the bible is a poor source of clarity. It is all over the map as far as rules, and not very consistent. But I’m not talking apocryphy here, I’m talking straight up 10 commandments shit. The core “do unto others”, and “don’t be greedy”, and “be grateful”, stuff that the whole thing is supposed to be based on.
I think ultimately we are arguing the same thing: That there is something to justify anything within the labyrinthian maze that is biblical logic. But where we diverge is that you are willing to call anyone who claims to be Christian, Christian. And I’m trying to highlight how an overwhelming majority of Christians are anything but.
My original point is that the brown shirt, class traitor, gestapo, murderer “christian” is just about as Christian as the king asshole there in the white house: ie, not at all. I’m attempting to call attention to the painfully paradoxical relationship between those who call themselves Christians and their estimation of the importance of things such as compassion, charity, humility, simplicity, community, and introspection.
But part of the issue is you are cherry picking WHAT JESUS SAID. You’re literally justifying their actions by trying to pretend like their book doesn’t give them justification.
Jesus said that you must continue the laws previously set by their god. His generic “be nice” message doesn’t supersede the horrible treatment of others the rest of the book promotes. And the part you’re missing is that all the shitty things people do now they can go back to the book and say “look, its says this is all ok. Even Jesus agrees” because it does say that.
This is what happens in all of the highly violent religions. There are good and bad parts and everyone wants to pretend like the bad parts aren’t there. They want to say that people are manipulating the word to justify things when honestly they aren’t. These books were created by people who wanted to justify their own actions, their own grabs for power. They invent gods and create stories to show that the horrible stuff they do is ok because their god says so.
The people you’re saying aren’t Christian are Christian. Sadly they most likely haven’t read their own book, haven’t actually studied it in depth. And the ironic part is that even then most of them still are following what the book says even when doing horrible things.
This is the praise you give to someone who fucked up and accidentally killed someone through stupidity with no intent and they’re also devastated that the death happened. Some dumb party prank or something. They’ve otherwise been a normal human and stayed out of trouble. You’re trying for leniency from the court, but still expect you’ll go to jail for a while, just hoping it won’t be a long time.
This MF showed up already primed to kill someone. Deliberately positioned himself in order to claim a threat and escalate the situation, while she was being told to leave* by other officers, and she attempted to leave and was shot by him within seconds even after he was no longer in front of the vehicle. He doesn’t have any remorse. Fuck him.
*([https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/07/shooting-south-minneapolis-ice-agents-federal-operation](“Some of them were leaving, and they just went around her, but ICE gave her orders to leave, while at the same time, another ICE person said, ‘Get out of the car,’ and he reached for her door handle. And then there was an ICE agent in front of her vehicle. ) Seems to be typical cop bs to issue conflicting orders. The shooter could have simply stepped aside, but chose not to.)
He’s also a murderer. These things are not mutually exclusive. Being a good dad doesn’t excuse putting a bullet in the head of a good mom.
Oh, he’s a Christian. That explains everything, really.
He’s not saying he’s good because he’s a good father and husband, he’s citing those as evidence for him being a good conservative Christian, which is the only thing that matters to them. If you identify as exactly that you can do anything and still be a good person.
The rich have co-opted Christianity and the insane devotion its internal logic creates to build their perfect foot soldiers
“Conservative Christian” means “not at all aligned with the teachings of Jesus Christ”.
But that’s not really true. If you are a trinitarian then what Yahweh said is also what Jesus said. But even so people apparently haven’t actually read their bible. Jesus was exclusionary, used racial slurs for tribes he didn’t like, told everyone to continue the same barbaric treatment found in the Old Testement.
It means gullible and incurious… but also yes
It means women are less. But also yes.
If even 50% of “christians” gave a fuck about what Jesus said, we wouldn’t be here.
Fucking gross.
With all the feeding and clothing the poor, and the
And the
And the
I would argue a true Christian would be considered part of the “radical left” and that conservativism is an anathema to chistianity.
Why did you skip the part where Jesus said he is here to fulfill the law, not abolish it. That we must continue the old law that told you how to get slaves from the nations around you and how to properly beat them, or to kill a woman if she doesn’t bleed her first time. I think only those who haven’t actually studied the bible would think Jesus was this great guy.
No True Scotsman fallacy. Your logic breaks at assuming that people who call themselves Christian actually understand the teachings of Christ, and that such an understanding is necessary or germane to the question of whether or not someone is “Christian”. I don’t think you can seriously claim that the Spanish conquistadors were not Christian. Their Christian identity didn’t stop them from enslaving, oppressing, and getting VERY rich. Christian IS as Christian DOES.
I actually am seriously claiming that the Spanish conquistadors were not Christian. As enslaving, oppressing, and getting rich, are counter indicated by the bible. The inconsistency is not mine, it is the “followers” of the bible.
And I would contend that the bible is filled with so much random dogmatism, cruelty and insanity that it is literally impossible to follow it all faithfully. Saying “oh, no true Christian would do that” is literally a no true Scotsman fallacy. Christianity is a religious movement. It is defined by its members. Just because not everything every member does fits within the confines of a random text compiled by committee from apocryphal scraps of parchment and papyrus, that doesn’t mean that those members are not “Christian”. If I believe in any one tenet that Christ supposedly espoused, such as the weird eschatological shit, then I can call myself a Christian. Are you the ultimate arbiter of what makes a Christian, or are you just someone trying to make people fit neatly within or outside of a little box for the sake of argument? What do YOU think, oh oracle, makes someone a christian? The Nicene creed, or just those three scraps of text you quoted? The part about Babylon, mother of harlots, rising in the end times, as the seals open? Or perhaps following Leviticus, one of the greatest sources of strife, bigotry and cruelty in world history?
You seem pretty emotionally invested, so I will recommend that as I am not particularly invested, if it is easier for you, I give you total freedom to ignore my individual opinion. I’m just one man, feel free to ignore me. But what I’ve quoted is primarily direct quotes from Jesus (per the bible), or taken from Exodus, which is about as foundational as it gets Christianity wise.
I agree that the bible is a poor source of clarity. It is all over the map as far as rules, and not very consistent. But I’m not talking apocryphy here, I’m talking straight up 10 commandments shit. The core “do unto others”, and “don’t be greedy”, and “be grateful”, stuff that the whole thing is supposed to be based on.
I think ultimately we are arguing the same thing: That there is something to justify anything within the labyrinthian maze that is biblical logic. But where we diverge is that you are willing to call anyone who claims to be Christian, Christian. And I’m trying to highlight how an overwhelming majority of Christians are anything but.
My original point is that the brown shirt, class traitor, gestapo, murderer “christian” is just about as Christian as the king asshole there in the white house: ie, not at all. I’m attempting to call attention to the painfully paradoxical relationship between those who call themselves Christians and their estimation of the importance of things such as compassion, charity, humility, simplicity, community, and introspection.
But part of the issue is you are cherry picking WHAT JESUS SAID. You’re literally justifying their actions by trying to pretend like their book doesn’t give them justification.
Jesus said that you must continue the laws previously set by their god. His generic “be nice” message doesn’t supersede the horrible treatment of others the rest of the book promotes. And the part you’re missing is that all the shitty things people do now they can go back to the book and say “look, its says this is all ok. Even Jesus agrees” because it does say that.
This is what happens in all of the highly violent religions. There are good and bad parts and everyone wants to pretend like the bad parts aren’t there. They want to say that people are manipulating the word to justify things when honestly they aren’t. These books were created by people who wanted to justify their own actions, their own grabs for power. They invent gods and create stories to show that the horrible stuff they do is ok because their god says so.
The people you’re saying aren’t Christian are Christian. Sadly they most likely haven’t read their own book, haven’t actually studied it in depth. And the ironic part is that even then most of them still are following what the book says even when doing horrible things.
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Declaring loyalty and affiliation.
Just using the word tremendous (orange toddler special) to describe him, should tell us about the what kind of household he was raised in.
Everyone makes the “he was a good boy” defense, it only seems to work for white people.
and a coward, and a murderer.
This is the praise you give to someone who fucked up and accidentally killed someone through stupidity with no intent and they’re also devastated that the death happened. Some dumb party prank or something. They’ve otherwise been a normal human and stayed out of trouble. You’re trying for leniency from the court, but still expect you’ll go to jail for a while, just hoping it won’t be a long time.
This MF showed up already primed to kill someone. Deliberately positioned himself in order to claim a threat and escalate the situation, while she was being told to leave* by other officers, and she attempted to leave and was shot by him within seconds even after he was no longer in front of the vehicle. He doesn’t have any remorse. Fuck him.
*([https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/07/shooting-south-minneapolis-ice-agents-federal-operation](“Some of them were leaving, and they just went around her, but ICE gave her orders to leave, while at the same time, another ICE person said, ‘Get out of the car,’ and he reached for her door handle. And then there was an ICE agent in front of her vehicle. ) Seems to be typical cop bs to issue conflicting orders. The shooter could have simply stepped aside, but chose not to.)
So he’s not just a piece of shit, he’s a piece of shit that is in a pedo cult? Noted
we know, we knew that when he murdered Good
Oh, yeah, we assumed that, he acted like a true Christian.
You know what they say: There’s no Hate like Christian Love.