This seems like a warning sign. If the dev are not innovating new system and algorithm that AI cannot produce then this product will not evolve !
That’s why it keeps telling me I’m offline while having an active WiFi and 5G connection of which both work and no other apps have any issues with the internet.
For me it started crashing when I open an instance on another device
Their best developers.
The worst ones are still there checking the vibe coded garbage.
How many lines of code have they had to fix thanks to AI?
That’s a problem for the future team, not the current bosses who will give themselves golden parachutes.
We can tell
LOL. Exactly. This reminds me of a slop code change my manager recently posted. It was a million lines, where really it just needed to be like 3 or 4 lines. I refuse to do a real review for slop PRs.
Later in standup he proudly proclaims, “You know, that PR was mostly Claude.” … … …
I know! It was bad! You should feel bad! The fact that he was proud of it showed he doesn’t know what the hell he’s doing. More lines of code means higher performance, right?? 😂
Spotify’s functions have not changed a bit since 2016. It is literally the same application, what has changed are the tiny things they’re doing for compatibility but that is not really worth mentioning. Intentionally leaving UX out.
Honestly what code is there to write for this glorified web browser? They’re probably also outsourcing most of their data collection and recommendation algorithms.
Buy physical media, rip CDs, share shit and that’s it
Find a musician you like. Buy their music on Bandcamp. Download as FLAC.
I wouldn’t place too much trust in Bandcamp. It was acquired by Epic Games and then sold to Songtradr shortly after, it’s waiting to enshittify. It might also be better to buy off of labels and artists directly if you want to “support” an artists or a label. Used CDs and vinyls are great too.
Yeah I download the files right away. It creates something of an Odysseus Pact I think. The second they stop offering me the downloads DRM free, I download the files DRM free elsewhere.
It may be waiting to enshittify, but as it is still DRM free, that’s not a huge deal breaker (as long as they don’t change this policy). Plus, they’re still doing Bandcamp fridays, so it’s still the best way to financially support a musician at the moment.
I find Bandcamp missing most of the artists I listen to. I’ve had a lot more success buying from Qobuz and beatport.
You are wrong on many points IMO.
I’ve been using it for nearly a decade, it’s changed a lot.
I don’t know why you’d be leaving ux out.
What code is there to write? You must be trolling come on now.I’ve been using it for nearly a decade, it’s changed a lot.
Same. I just simply don’t agree. If you consider tiny features not a soul needs like yearly reviews of one’s listening habits and the roll out of podcasts as things worth mentioning, ok, they were not exactly doing anything radically new at that point anyway.
I don’t know why you’d be leaving ux out.
Because UX 90% adds nothing and chiefly serves to suggest innovation.
You must be trolling come on now.
I am. I want Spotify employees to read this and get steamingly mad. They are complicit in ruining music.
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Like a lot of these big, consolidated, years long projects, the real work is maintenance. The rest is just a bunch of people desperately trying to improve obscure KPIs by 1%.
Mark Fisher’s idea of market stalinism comes to mind
Is that supposed to be impressive? Spotify is among the dumbest, shittiest apps. It’s literally just a music library player.
Spotify doesn’t exist because it’s some genius app. It exists because of legal control. They have no reason to make the app better. Indeed their shitty capitalist motives continue to enshittify the app.
Notifications don’t even work for most of my saved podcasts.
Hm. A new way to tell something is shit without actually using these words
Always the fucking suits.
That explains how Anna’s Archives got in
I was so excited to get my grubby hands on that music only to later learn it was hundreds of terabytes…
You were expecting to be able to burn out all the music in the world (yes, hyperbolic, shut up) on a couple DVDs?
Its also not sorted in any way that’s usable.
I think thats why the code was needed…
Do you know what we call someone that doesn’t write a single line of code?
Anything other than a “developer”.
A manager. This tool is for what managers think software development is: managing the production of code. From that perspective this hype makes a lot of sense, just turn all your current developers into managers with AI and you now have grown the team by 10x. You can go back in time and find many jokes about how adding more developers doesn’t speed up delivery but slows it down. I don’t see how AI would suddenly make that less true, especially since the AI is not accountable for its results, you are.
Lmao, exactly. If you’re not writing the code you’re not the developer, the AI is the developer. Youre just another asshole who gets paid to do nothing.
This sounds like such a fucking nightmare. I got into software because I like writing code. Their job is now the equivalent of a full time PR reviewer.
PR reviewer but the dev was drunk, sometimes is a genius, sometimes is eating sand, doesn’t follow guidelines, likes to duplicate code, and forgets what was in the original task description after a while.
And even if you babysit it and carefully tell it all the mistakes, it will learn nothing and suggest the same stupid mistakes next tim. I did actually know a human just like AI and he kept his job for years before quitting to grift another company because management refused to believe he sucked. So I’m not optimistic about AI screwing up discouraging business leaders.
I don’t review that shit. Those PRs tend to be huge walls of text. If you didn’t take any effort into preparing something for me, then I’m not making any effort into reviewing it for you.
Let the slop flow! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
When it breaks, I’m also not jumping in to fix it.
They ate lying without a question.
Is this why my wife is constantly complaining that her playlists constantly keep playing the same songs over and over?
Fuck yeah, it is.
My favourite example of Spotify being shit is:
I want to play an album, so I go to it and press play. Then a bit later I want to queue a second album after the first one is done. How do I do that? As far as I can tell the answer is to go fuck myself. I have start a new queue or playlist with both albums in it.
That’s apart from all the basic software quality stuff like randomly restarting the queue.
Edit: so now I use finamp with jellyfin, which I can actually fix when it does something I hate.
Spotifys UX has always been terrible. We all got used to having crappy software. It’s too convenient that’s AI also makes crappy vibecode without supervision. No one will notice anything.
There was a time back in maybe… 2009(?) when the UI was great. It made sense, you could do everything you could possibly want very easily. Then they broke everything I think around 2012 and completely revamped the UI, and it’s never been good ever since.
Glad I left it years ago.
2009 would be back when it was a native application, rather than just a web browser
I too remember when there were actual markets with actual products who actually competed with one another
Podcast. Filter out episodes I’ve already listened to. Turn around. Filter out episodes I’ve already listened to. Put the app in the background. Filter out episodes that I’ve already listened to. Finish an episode. Filter out episodes I’ve already listened to. The year is 2026. Filter out episodes that I’ve already listened to.
Tell me, why is that not persistent?
The point of these apps is to leech as much money as possible.
An opposing goal would be to make the app better for users.
Have you fixed anything when it’s done something you’ve hated? I sometimes think, “I can fix this” and the I let my workarounds last for years. Like a leaky faucet where I fix it by rotating the handle not to 180° but to like 185.
Yeah, I try to make a point of using free software and contributing where I can. It does have to rise to a certain threshold of annoyance though.
function GetRandomNumber(): return 42;It’s a random number, what more do you want 🤷♂️ /s
IllegalArgumentException: expected random number, got Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything.
No, that’s just random being random. In order for something truly random to feel less random to the average person, you have to reduce the repetition.
Idk why the donwvotes. This is how these players implement shuffle, because people don’t actually want a random shuffle most times.
Maybe people disliked my fun fact, maybe I came off the wrong way, maybe people took offense at my typo. It doesn’t matter much. I comment for me! (This comment included)
This is the difference between randomly choosing songs and randomly choosing songs without repetition.
Both are random but the later is much better for humans.
https://www.statisticshowto.com/sampling-with-replacement-without/
Of course there are other possible methods of choosing. It seems like Spotify is doing some kind of weighting from another comment posted here.
and that is what spotify actually does: https://engineering.atspotify.com/2025/11/shuffle-making-random-feel-more-human
<sigh>… And here I am, expecting “shuffle” to be a random ordering without repetition at all, like a silly person apparently.
This, the Shuffle function should play every song exactly once, just in a random order. This is what cd players have been supporting since the late '80s.
It is a very simple algorithm but Spotify turned it into something complex that barely works. By default, in large playlists, it will heavily prioritize some songs while others are almost never heard. People have complained about this for years and there is an option in the settings for it now, although I am not yet sure if that setting really disables all of the “smart” algorithms Spotify has associated with shuffle.
You mean “shuffle” like when you shuffle a deck of cards and have exactly the same cards still but in a different order with no single card repeating because you started out with a deck of cards and why would there suddenly be an extra card or 5 of the same face value in the deck because that’s just crazy talk? That kind of shuffle?
Yeah sorry, Spotify doesn’t do that.
My problem with Spotify shuffle was that it always ended up throwing a similar order of songs. The same group of songs would end up in the same general position on the playlist every time. It’s not random, and it stands to reason that people doesn’t actually want real random order. But it was super obvious, noticeable and quite annoying to hit the same songs at the same time on your walk every single time. They even admitted publicly that their shuffle function sucks.
This is why I switched!!! I don’t use streaming services much, but I hated spotify’s shuffle and general music suggestions. So I tested qobuz and tidal, and can confirm that tidal’s suggestions are far superior to Spotify’s. I still prefer collecting albums and listening to them individually though
that is exactly what it does
the fewer repeats is for when you listen to the same playlist multiple times, not for the sequence itself
Bullshit
It’s quite possible they already fired their best developers
This is spotify. It’s just a music player. The overwhelming bulk of the code was probably written like 20 years ago by a 15 year old.
Look at the feature list bragged about. It’s really simple stuff. I can absolutely believe they vibe coded that stuff.
The “hardest” one was to feed listener history to an LLM and have it generate a playlist based on the titles. That’s such an absurdly trivial thing to do.
It’s not rocket science. It’s a trivial streaming music player.
