He’s had yet another horrible week. The old tricks aren’t working. Kamala Harris does not fear him. And it’s showing in the numbers.

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    Just to remind everyone in 2016 people had pretty much already planned their Clinton victory parties and everyone “knew” that Trump was going to lose, the polling was so clear and Trump was such a joke. Perhaps some even took care of “more important” stuff than voting because it was so sure.

    So keep your excitement to take you to the voting booths rather than letting it make you complacent.

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      Thanks for saying this. It’s Mid-August. There are two whole months in which things can go wildly off the rails. Rather than celebrating polls in mid-August, let’s take this happy energy and make plans to go to the only poll that matters – the actual election – and make these mid-August hopes turn into January certainty. Plan the celebrations after we win in November, to coincide with Harris taking the Oath in January.

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        There are two whole months in which things can go wildly off the rails.

        It’s astonishing how long the US election cycle is. There’s longer until the next US election than the entire campaign here in the UK, yet it’s all I’ve heard about for the past three years.

        Can you guys not just chill the fuck out?

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          Can you guys not just chill the fuck out?

          I used to go years between worrying about politics before Trump was president. I’m hoping those days can return somehow.

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      Yea while Kamala is ahead in the polls , a frighteningly large amount of people still support 45

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        Even then, the error % on polls is high enough that Trump could be ahead instead.

        Polls post their calculated error %. If they could be off by like 5% in either direction, then that’s what they say. And if the poll shows Trump losing by 2%, with a 5% error, that means Trump could win by 3%.

        Every single reputable poll that has been published shows a Trump victory within the margin of error.

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      Unfortunately I don’t see Kamala winning just yet, nothing is certain, there’s a lot of Trump supporters in the wood work, and the establishment liberal media play a game of “maybe if we pretend they’re losing, they’ll lose”.

      …which is wishful thinking that destroys people’s grip on reality, and causes a lot of voters to not bother to show up.

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          Are you kidding? The “establishment” (mainstream) media is extremely left. They don’t like trump and do all they can to hurt his campaign.

          Where do you live?

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              … NBC, MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, FOX (fox has fallen into this group recently), etc. It’s crazy that more folks don’t realize this. 90% of MSM is pro liberal agenda.

              Liberals know mostly know this, but they don’t care because they are on their side. MSM bias for the left isn’t even argued. It’s common knowledge (at least it should be).

              Many many local news stations are also run by this media conglomerate, and that’s why you will see all these news stations reading from the same script. They have a collective agenda. Well, actually, it’s not THEIR agenda, it’s the agenda of a VERY small group fed to these stations to repeat.

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              Ok, maybe it’s more correct to say ‘totally’ left or ‘completely’ left, but that’s what it is. That’s why it’s called the “liberal media.”

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                The term “liberal media” is only used by those within the corporate media itself, right wing kool-aid drinkers, or with scare quotes around it by the actual left.

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                  The term “liberal media” is a correct term because 90% of major news outlets (and media in general) lean left. This is accepted by everyone who has eyes to see.

                  This is a good place for you to be. It’s easy to do little research and find that MSM leans left, like 95% of major news outlets do. The bias for things that are left of center in media isn’t even argued by left, or right, or anyone. The only people who don’t realize this are those who have “drank the kool-aid”. Please, just do a couple of google searches. These major news outlets don’t even really hide it. Google “the liberal media” or “major news outlets bias”. Something like that.

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      The mainstream media just doesn’t reflect/represent the majority of Americans anymore and hasn’t for quite some time, actually.

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    I have to admit when I’m wrong.

    I was all for Joe staying in the race, because I didn’t think the Dems would coalesce around one candidate without a shit-show convention.

    Now I’m glad I was wrong. Just putting it out there.

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        You know what the cool thing is? Those of us who were wrong for one reason or another will actually about it. We don’t pretend we were right the whole time. We don’t pretend it just didn’t happen.

        Hindsight being what it is, I’m almost wondering if the timing was planned in advance. Biden already told us he’d be a one term president. If in 10 years they came out and said “Yeah, that was the plan from day one but we couldn’t tell anyone” I would absolutely believe it.

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          I think you’re underestimating the effect power has on the psyche.

          Sure, Biden said he would be a one term president. Sure, the DNC will do anything including breaking its own rules to avoid allowing anyone left of center to be the nominee.

          But when you’re in the most powerful position in the world (Biden’s donors), you want to keep going.

          I think Biden really is just too old and his brain is not working properly and he has health issues, which I believe is the only reason he stepped down, and if those in power beside him did not threaten to force him out of power in an embarrassing way, he would have been happy to have the chance to lose the election and end democracy.

          Even right up to the debate, people were repeating ad naseum the absurd lie from the DNC and cable news, that Biden is the only candidate who can beat Trump.

          Look at Feinstein. The people pushing her wheelchair were absolutely ready to have her run for another term, with fucking dementia or whatever her health issue is……

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            Maybe! I’m not really advocating that thought, I’m just saying it wouldn’t surprise me. And I’m pretty happy to say I was wrong in thinking the DNC would be a total shit show of competing interests. She’s not my perfect candidate, but honestly no one is and I’m not going to let perfect be the enemy of good. Plus I like Walz.

            Look at Feinstein. The people pushing her wheelchair were absolutely ready to have her run for another term, with fucking dementia or whatever her health issue is……

            That was one of the most fucked up things I’ve ever seen in politics. She was more mostly dead than Westley in The Princess Bride.

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              I’m torn, I really like Walz, but I also can’t in good conscience vote for someone who supports the genocide in Gaza.

              I’m very thankful I live in a blue state.

              I’m open to Harris walz but I need something to happen to end this genocide before I can take them seriously.

              I’m so glad folks are getting excited about Harris walz though….

              Edit: I suppose downvoting this comment means you openly support genocide, so I could give fuck all other than seeing how sad and pathetic your life must be to be in full support of suffering of this scale. 138,000 dead Palestinians, which is most likely a very low estimate, close to 10% of the population is now dead.

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                As a preface to this, I’m not the one downvoting you. I also think what’s happening is abhorrent.

                Since you’re in a blue state, it’s not nearly as big of a deal. However, for anyone reading this in battleground states, remember that the only alternative who actually has any shot of winning in FPTP electoral college is Trump who thinks Israel should “finish the job”.

                I’m pretty sure you know why you’re being downvoted. If we want more real options we need to start working towards any system that isn’t FPTP electoral college bullshit.

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                  I’m being downvoted because of libtard blue no matter who neoliberal folks who only watch cable news.

                  Yes, I know exactly why, and it’s very sad that they can support genocide so flippantly

                  And if this hurts your feelings get over it I guess there’s a fucking genocide going on and you’re in support of it

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    As much as I’d like to celebrate, I can only think about how the attitude was the same regarding Hillary, and we all saw how that turned out. Fingers crossed.

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      It’s the truth, though… If trump could beat out Hillary, Kamala stands no chance in hell.

      Edit: Quit reading into this. It’s an opinion based on observation. It’s fine if you disagree and want to tell me why I’m wrong. I welcome that. But assuming I’m pro-trump or anti-harris because of this comment is an assumption you shouldn’t be making. I said nothing to indicate support for either.

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        The energy around Clinton was different, even most dems weren’t thrilled with Hillary and she was unpopular with undecided voters, meanwhile we know and have seen the threat that is Trump, and Harris is fairing better so far.

        We’ll see of course, but it’s not as similar as it might seem if you’re just saying “Woman vs Trump is the same”

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                  This is from a more detailed comment I made:

                  "Tim waltz (and family) finances. Facts: Tim owns no stock, bonds, mutual funds, ETFs. He owns no real estate, investment property, or otherwise (neither does his wife). He also has no 401k, IRA, or any retirement fund. His net worth is estimated to be 115,000$ to 330,000$. All this is not great, considering he’s 60(ish?) nearing retirement. the average net worth for congresspeople and senators is around $1 million. His only legitimate source of income is his pension.

                  Pros or cons, we can decide for ourselves if all this makes him a better candidate for VP or not. We can make some assumptions, and one assumption I can make is that waltz personally seems to be financially ignorant.

                  There are other pros and cons about Waltz, but as far as finances, Tim Waltz is a scrub. And I think that these facts are very important when considering electing him into a position where he’s at the controls for financial decisions for an ENTIRE country… whatever side you lean toward, all this should be concerning."

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                  There are reasons, but what sticks out to me is that he seems financially illiterate. Neither he nor his wife own a home or any other assets. He owns no business. No stocks, bonds, securities, 401K or investments anywhere. Waltz ownz nothing… None of this is bad, necessarily, if you’re a regular citizen, but I’d want/expect someone running for Vice President to be more financially savvy.

                  Tim waltz is a scrub

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          “Time” is the greatest clarifier. This narrative you’re talking about isn’t made from lies about Hillary. It is about things that were called called lies at first, but then, over time, were proven to be correct. But by they time they were proven correct, hardly anyone cared about it anymore, the focus had shifted to other topics, and the MSM hardly reported on it.

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    Oh geez… I swear, this sub is becoming just like r/politics… one sided.