• Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee
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    16 days ago

    Picked up the Bluray series off eBay. Physical media seems like the way to go, to really own anything

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      16 days ago

      Physical media seems like the way to go, to really own anything

      That or sailing the digital sea, which ig you could consider a bunch of DRM-free files on a drive you own to still be “physical media”

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      15 days ago

      … Ripped to a media server. It’ll be a cold day in hell before I can be arsed to stand up and put media into a machine anymore.

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    16 days ago

    The federation is like living at your parent’s house. Things are free under their roof, but if you want to drink with Quark, you’re going to have to trade your star fleet allowance for latinum.

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      14 days ago

      I like to imagine they’ve all got unlimited credit lines but they play along with the Ferengi to respect their culture. Their system might fall apart if they are forced to acknowledge it only works with artificial scarcity.

      Definitely no social commentary there btw.

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    15 days ago

    Dunno what kind of economic model we’d need if we had star trek -level replication technology.

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      15 days ago

      We could just explore, try to learn new interesting things, and have campy holodeck adventures with Mark Twain.

      I don’t think the current rich people would approve. But screw’em if we have replicators

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        15 days ago

        The economy would crash and millions of people would starve. I wish I were kidding. We humans are really fucking dumb.

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          Ultimately I plan on subscribing to the Mark Twain VR OnlyFans on my Meta headset. It’ll be $20/mo for the ad supported tier. The ads will be directly loaded into my neural link so I can’t look away.

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        That sounds cute until some rich asshole sets up his own anti-matter reactor to run their own holodecks with content and filters removed. I’m thinking he sets it up on a remote asteroid and invites his other rich asshole friends. Except he secretly records them and uses it to set up a blackmail network.

        He’d probably have to have some weird alien name like, Kah-Epstein.

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      15 days ago

      I always thought the “you wouldn’t download a car” ads were based on an assumption that star trek replicator technology would be evil (with the public argument that it would put people out of jobs and the real reason being it would be harder to base a wealth-based hierarchy and system of middlemen on).

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        15 days ago

        The original ad was “you wouldn’t steal a car,” literally claiming that downloading a movie is morally equivalent to carjacking.

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          15 days ago

          From the people who brought us private sex islands, in both underage and cult varieties. Fucking hate Hollywood dictating morality to everyone else.

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          Ah, yeah, it might have been the implication that they were equivalent that got me thinking that rather than them using “download” instead of “steal”.

          They also lost me with the sappy ads about the crews that don’t make millions from the movies, as if the studios would even be able to produce movies without paying crews (and weren’t already doing everything they could to reduce that expense).

          Especially when I knew that it was the studios’ fault theatres had to gouge people on snacks because those greedy fucks wanted all of the ticket sales money, despite theatres requiring money to run and maintain.

          And don’t get me started on Hollywood accounting and how it was used to claim Return of the Jedi made 0 profit to fuck over the actor behind one of the most iconic roles in film (who wanted royalties instead of a set pay but made the mistake of believing they were negotiating with him in good faith and weren’t just fucking vultures).

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      15 days ago

      We’d probably need a very similar model.

      Replicators don’t replaces services, just goods. Most people aren’t willing to render services for free.

      The replicators also use enormous amounts of energy. They’re basically nukes in reverse. They “solve” this problem with anti-matter but the anti-matter reaction seems to require trilithium. And as we know from several episodes, trilithium is definitely not an unlimited resources.

      The economy might not involve anyone hand-making widgets but there would be a lot of economics around acquiring, processing and distributing trilithium.

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      15 days ago

      I’m wondering what the limiting factor would be in my day to day lives.

      I want a burrito, easy, I want 10 burritos, still easy. 100? A bit concerning, but sure? Five, Hundred, burritos? Getting alarming

      I tell the replicator to manufacture a billion burritos and society as we know it grinds to a halt.

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        15 days ago

        I know where you’re going with this and it is 100% what our internet famous generations would do today. In the era of “will it smash”, we test “will it crash”, all for views. The key thing about this movie though, it was after war and we humans were tired of fighting for scraps. So one would hope we wouldn’t need to see if our replicator will make 100 burritos because “why do you need them?”.

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      15 days ago

      The economic model would have to be based on energy supply.

      But assuming the replicators were perfect to the atomic level; making the parts for power generation would be easy. But the fuel would still have to be found / collected / mined.

      Assuming that fusion is the most common type of energy generation; hydrogen fusion would probably be the dominant form of energy generation. Hydrogen collection would be a huge industry, but it also could be fully automated.

      While the economic model may not be noticed by the majority; it would still be there.

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      Need? None, really. It’s like when you get to the North Pole, the entire concept of “north” breaks down. It would be the same with post-scarcity. Or should be, except…

      Have? Completely up to the whims of whoever controls the technology. Which… takes a look at the planet will be whoever is left standing once the nut jobs wipe out everyone that they hate. “Computer, ICBM, nuclear.”

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    I’m pretty sure by the end, even Roddenberry had come to accept that humans will never be so selfless as a species and the Starfleet he dreamt of could never exist. That’s why his later stuff was more bleak. There’s just absolutely no way that the money free world they describe is good for everyone

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      I believe there is a way. Nanotechnology helped along by artificial intelligence could conceivably bring material abundance to everyone. This would be a world dramatically reshaped. Humanity might not even qualify as the same species anymore.

      Some people actually think that such a future is an inevitability; that it can’t be stopped. Short of everybody dying in a fire of course.

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        My cynical perspective is that people will monetise that nanotechnology before long

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          There has never been a case where governments are able to hide technology from the people for more than a decade at a time in modern history. It might start out expensive, innovations usually do, but over time the expense drops, someone makes a quick buck selling to the masses, and all of a sudden money is meaningless.

          Worst case scenario you may have to use your second amendment rights to acquire the technology for the masses, which is what it was designed for.

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      There’s just absolutely no way that the money free world they describe is good for everyone.

      Can you elaborate, please? In a hypothetical future where money doesn’t exist and technology has granted everyone the means and freedom to pursue their own interests (as long as those interests aren’t harmful to others, of course), I’m having difficulty understanding why that wouldn’t be amazing. Maybe not perfect, but vastly improved over what we’re stuck with now.

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    16 days ago

    Ah yes, because in capitalism, Captains actually own their own ships and you don’t need to pay anyone to actually build it! Just use slaves enthusiastic volunteers!