I wish. It’s a clear message from the constituency, but no one ever blamed the DNC for listening ti their voters too much.
I’m no political scientist, but I’d think he needs to win the general before this can be said.
Beating well-established Democratic royalty on their home turf by a Muslim is a pretty solid punch in the face.
He even had Clinton’s endorsement. This was a very clear Fuck You to the Democratic party.
Agreed but this is a good start.
For sure, but we’ve seen hope like this go down the drain before. The circumstances here were favorable I think. RCV primary against an unlikable and disgraced opponent in NYC is hardly a death knell for the national corpo Dems
Agreed as well, and I don’t wanna jump for joy yet but we gotta take our victories as they come. Hopefully this is a snowball that causes an avalanche of change.
Ehhh zorhan primary win is more like first big hurtle. Now ZOHRAN has to deal with belligerent part of democratic party and independent runs
He already has, up to this point. In fact, big parts of the party tried to support his competition. They failed. He’s another in AOC mould. He may be good or great but there is an increasing trickle of progressive candidates.
The more that win by being good the more that can win without being so good. He may not be the Dems saviour but he’s a step in the right direction and a worrying sign for Republicans and establishment politicians.
Indeed, they dusted off big Bill Clinton even.
When I hear that Clinton endorsed a canidate my first tthough was, who cares. That guy hasn’t been in office for over 25 years now. Talk about irrelevant
I’m afraid it’s too late though.
It’s possible - arguably even likely - that the Dem establishment still won’t get the message and will instead continue to try to con us into supporting corrupt neolib hacks and will continue to undermine actual leftists.
In fact, I sort of half expect the New York party to abandon Mamdani and instead back a write-in campaign for Cuomo.
I wish I was kidding.
Even if they show never-before-seen integrity and determination and actualy shift back toward supporting actual leftists (or get replaced by a new generation of leaders who will), I still think it’s likely going to be too late. The longer Trump and his ilk remain in office, the more likely it becomes that opposing them will just get you on the next flight to some overseas concentration camp, or dead, or both.
Yeah hope has security detail. I worry ICE going grab him and disappear him. Especially if it looks like he will win the general election.
100%. The DNC are not our friends and havent been for a while now.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the establishment decides open corruption is pretty cool actually and starts trying to rehabilitate Adams’ image. Seems like trying to run both Adams and Cuomo is a fools errand and Adams is stubborn enough to stay in regardless so they’ll have to go with him.
They already have, for years.
It is too late for electoral politics to save democracy, if that’s what you’re talking about. People like Mamdani are important for the day after, but Trump will have to be deposed much like his ilk in Ukraine and Tunisia.
I’m always very intrigued by those pushing the rhetoric that it’s too late to use elections to solve this, and admonish anyone that tries.
But at the same time they themselves refuse to start a revolution they insist is the only way. While simultaneously waiting for someone else to do it for them.
In the end the suggestion seems to be to not do anything and hope someone else does it for you. Be that by democratic means or armed means.
If you’re not starting the rebellion you sure as hell need to be engaged with the existing democratic proccess. Otherwise you’re just not doing anything at all. Which is the worst option
Agree 1000% ~ there’s not much hope left.
Lets see if you get a President Mamdani in a decade or two. It would be a change for the better.
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This is NOT true! The ONLY Reason he Won was because we DIDNT have Elon Musk Backing us or make our Platform CLEAR enough! Next time we’ll spend BILLIONS of Dollars LETTING people know we WONT do ANYTHING to Improve Their Lives! THAT will bring them RUSHING back to Us!
-Chuck Schumer and The DNC!
Hopefully the pendulum swings back hard after this fucking year.
Republicans will control the supreme court for the next 20 years. We will see couple of resignations soon so they can appoint younger, crazier judges. Hopefully progressive democrats will be able to stop the slide towards dictatorship but I don’t except any swinging back.
Allow me to introduce you to my friend court packing.
But also in terms of things like Roe, all we need to fix that is a law passed through congress. The court would have no constitutional basis challenging it at that point. If they did it loops back around to justifying court packing.
I like your optimism.
I wouldn’t say optimism. There’s historical precedent for this. Whether or not it will happen I have no idea.
Narrator: (just audible tears.)
And may it pisses off the MAGA crowd like nothing else.
Oh yeah don’t worry - they’re already foaming at the mouth
From your lips to the ears of Elpis.
I can only hope …
Be honest. Had you guys heard of In These Times or The Institute for Public Affairs before seeing this post?
Uh, yeah? Inthesetimes is posted all the time. Had you not?
I’m not sure why you’re linking to that non-profit. Are they the owners? It’s there any reason you’d expect people to recognize them?
The latter no, but the former yes. I’ve seen their articles floating around here.
God I hope so.
