So how many of the 24 offenders are affiliated with the Democratic Party or any other mainstream reformist, progressive or leftist organisation? The answer is none. The only perpetrator arguably from the Left is Black nationalist Quintez Brown.

Trump not alone in falsely blaming others for his own evil.

Immediately after Kirk’s killing, Elon Musk tweeted, ‘The Left is the party of murder’.

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      I literally had the fucking guided tour a year before the insurrection and I called out my MAGA ass family who were there with me saying this shit.

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        I took the guided tour years ago and definitely don’t remember beating a police officer to death with a flag pole.

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        Big emphasis on Network in this case. An entire dominant ecosystem promoted by right-wing billionaires and foreign nations like Russia and Israel.

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      It’s not really a discussion. They know damn well they are full of shit. But for the most part, they got away with it because we have a history of being soft when it comes to consequences for traitorous behavior.

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    Everything is projection with conservatives. Even when their followers are holding the smoking gun they accuse the left of the murder.

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      Even when their followers are holding the smoking gun they accuse the left of the murder.

      It really is the left’s fault. The conservative terrorists only attack in response to the left trying to be inclusive. And even if the left didn’t directly coerce an attack, it’s still their fault because they should have stopped it since they’re always talking about protecting others. Check and mate.

      I have to put /s because these are based on actual arguments used by conservatives…

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        I have to put /s because these are based on actual arguments used by conservatives…

        I’ve seen all those arguments and many more. /s is absolutely required.

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      It’s straight up lies from the top. Lower down believers project but the leaders are purposely lying to make projections easier.

      The difference is that people who project their faults aren’t necessarily aware that they’re projecting. The Republican leaders know what they’re saying is not only false but that they themselves are guilty of their accusations.

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    If there was actually ever any left wing terrorism in the modern day, you would genuinely never hear the end of it

    It would be bigger in the media than hurricane Katrina

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        There is plenty of hatred from “the left” leveled at Democrats. Brown was clearly on the left but is excluded in this article for no reason in particular. The point is made just from the number of rightists on the list. When they start denying that socialists are on the left, we can figure out they aren’t interested in telling the nuanced truth.

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    I really like the chart in the article that shows that hate crimes committed by white individuals was going down before Trump started his political career with a bit more earnest.

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    Why don’t we think Tyler Robinson aligns with “the left?” I know there was a lot of misinformation on him, but the situation is becoming more clear. We’ll learn more in the coming weeks.

    Lastly, right wing influencer Charlie Kirk was shot last Wednesday by Tyler Robinson, a white student from a gun-loving Republican Mormon family. Robinson has no party links, but has reportedly embraced the extremism of right wing racist Nick Fuentes.

    Does this still seem correct? His family was conservative, but he was not. Who reports he embraced Nick Fuentes? His family? His partner? Or just “some people” with no credibility?

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    Does it even matter that/if this guy wasn’t a leftist? The left has been celebrating and condoning the murder – isn’t that what actually counts? (I say this as someone who’s mostly leftist, slightly liberal.)

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      You think the tone of people discussing a murder afterwards is more important than the literal act of murder itself? The fuck are you talking about?

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      No. Praising a murder doesn’t actually count as much as committing one in any reasonable system of ethics or morality.

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      Were the attackers known to be on the left and not just a bunch of dissatisfied right wingers like Crooks and Routh?

      Edit: not to mention the list is about people who target politicians, and ICE isn’t a politician.

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        I don’t think we know for sure, but their slogans suggest that they’re leftists, so it seems worth at least a mention.

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          ICE isn’t a politician, so it doesn’t fit on the list in the article which is all about people committing political violence.

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            See my other comment reply: directly challenging the government’s monopoly on the use of force seems like one of the most political possible acts.

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              Try to stick with the topic. Expanding the list to people being violent against the government is going to include dozens more examples of right wingers which we know based on the federal website that was pulled down shortly after the attack so it wouldn’t openly contradict their lies about violence from the left.

              Oh, and all the fucksticks that tried to overthrow the 2020 election.

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              ICE are dogs. Dogs don’t know politics. They obey their masters that’s all. And a rabid attack dog off the leash must be put down.

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              And if we add all the SovCit attacks on cops etc, it would come out even further right dominated.

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        You don’t think stopping the current campaign of mass deportations, which seems like a likely motive, is a political goal?

        Edit to be clear: politics is the struggle for control of the polity. Directly challenging the government’s monopoly on the use of force is, perhaps, the most political act of violence possible.

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          If that’s what actually happened, then yeah. But nothing in the article indicates anything resembling a political motive. That’s why I asked why it should be considered political. Never heard of a “political” jailbreak.

          They didn’t try to dismantle anything. And just because they happen to have political opinions doesn’t mean that this attack was political.

          And, no, it’s not “political“ just because you decided to redefine the word to fit your accusation. Seriously, is it that hard do I admit you were wrong? Do you want to redefine the English language instead? Didn’t think I’d notice?

          Lol