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Weird how the Grand Old Pedos were insisting the Dems were going to ban prayer everywhere, yet its Pedo Don who started banning prayer in federal facilities…
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We require the headline match the original article, in this case "Feds Tell Faith Leaders ‘No More Prayer’ Outside Broadview Facility "
Please make it match or we’ll have to remove it.
This one is fundamentally different from the headline you provided, they may have realized the original was incorrect and swapped it out on you.
I’ve edited, but rules say title must faily describe article, which it did already.
I suggest updating the rules to match what you said here.
It’s clearly stated in rule #1:
“Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.”
In your case, the submitted title stated the exact opposite of the original.
Which, it added context, and was more descriptive. It was not the “exact opposite”, because rest assured, this will happen everywhere else prayer becomes “problematic” for optics in this administration.
Again, your headline stated that they banned prayer in “federal facilities”, implying all federal facilities, which was not true.
They banned it in this one, specific, facility as prayer was being used as a form of protest.
“Federal facilities”, as in all buildings and area around the campus that is the “Broadview ICE facility”. And, anywhere else they feel it needs to be. That’s not “the exact opposite”. And, regardless of the “why”, prayer, itself, was banned.
Again, I edited it, per your request. I’d suggest editing your rules to state link titles must match titles, verbatim, since that’s what you asked me to do, even though the title I used was in concordance with the posted rule.
It’s almost like they only wanna use religion to enforce their power and not anything else.
Priests will be shot. Again.
Priests who do not toe the party line.
Why are the protestors giving a Nazi salute in the photo, and it is ignored in the article?!?
Yes, I am uncomfortable with how close they are
Not a Nazi salute, it’s called a benediction. Once only performed by “Charismatic Christians” it’s become more mainstream nowadays. Usually they’ll wave from side to side. In person you wouldn’t mistake it for a Nazi salute, it’s just a bad picture.
This time d say it’s not a nazi salute: in these bizarre prayer groups they reach out like that as if putting their hand on a shoulder or back or whatever: 100% weird sure; but they aren’t doing the salute
Should include schools in that
Bet that this doesn’t apply to Christians.
It applies to everyone praying outside the immigration processing facility. They certainly don’t want God getting involved in immigration.
So…. You think they are going to punish anyone praying to god?
Jews, Christians and Muslims all pray to the same god.
They already have been. They shot a christian pastor in the face with a pepper ball.
If they’re doing it outside that immigration centre, yes.
ROFL… you must not fully grasp this administration very well then.
You think trump is loyal to those who elected him?! Moreover you think that loyalty extends to allowing them to criticise, oppose or protest against him?
No! Trump turns against people who supported him on the tiniest whim. He is the biggest snowflake of the lot and abhors criticism.
They support him. NOT the other way round. He has nothing but sneering contempt for people who criticise him.
Trump doesn’t care about Christians or what they believe. He only cares that he can dupe them into supporting him by taking away access to abortion. If you believe he cares about Christians he’s duped you just as hard as he’s duped them.
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So I think it is you who do not fully understand this administration, if you think that trump will protect them while they publicly criticise him.
He will not, and their prayers are meaningless to him. Only their uncritical and unthinking support is.
Dude theyre align with the evangelicals who are a coin flip on whether they consider Catholicism to be Christian, you know the largest descendant church of the Roman Imperial church? It is not above them to effectively shout “FUCKING HERETIC” and shoot even Jesus Christ himself if he disagreed with them. These people make the fuck fest of the waldesian crusade seem accepting.
The post title is misleading, and I think looking at the article makes it a lot clearer what is happening and why:
Federal authorities told demonstrators Friday that there would be “no more prayer” in front of or inside the Broadview ICE facility, in a move that mystified local leaders and raised legal questions.
A federal representative delivered the news to a huddle of faith leaders and activists standing outside the Immigration and Customs Enforcement facility Friday, speaking after faith leaders were denied entry to the building for the third time Friday.
In other words, prayer is being used as a form of protest outside the Broadview ICE facility. The solution, if you’re the US government, apparently, is to ban prayer!
Its not just “in front of”…
They’re not allowing any member of any religious group access to detainees.
As such, they started protesting in the “free speech zone”, which is a tiny fenced in area that’s literally and only there because you can’t have your first amendment rights in public anymore.
They’re not a new thing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gje3HiouzvQ
Like, it’s already not allowed inside, it wasn’t allowed directly outside, it was only allowed in a small cage whose location the facility choose to keep protestors out of the way.
This is a very big thing
Like you say, prayer is only banned if it is being used to protest Trump and ICE.
But that’s tantamount to saying “You can only pray for the things that are on the government’s approved list.” This should be pretty much just as shocking and offensive to most religious people as an outright ban on prayer.
Jesus famously said its only Christian if you use it to hate immigrants.
Based on your excerpt, it appears the Trump administration has banned prayer inside of, and nearby, federal facilities, just like the title says.
What is misleading?
Based on the exerpt, it sounds like they banned prayer in and outside a single facility. Not all of them. Not even plural.
That makes much more sense.
Does it though?
From this regime? Absolutely
I would not call it misleading as not broad enough. It should say prayer banned inside and outside federal facilities. Its just like due process. Once you identify a situation where its not allowed then it effectively is completely not allowed as everything can be called that. Ironically protest is constitutionally protected speech or if prayer was not allowed for some other reason you would normally allow it when its a form of protest. Its so crazy illegal for them to do that.
They don’t religion—specifically, Christianity—to be associated with sympathy for ICE victims.
Well we know Jesus famously hated prisoners and poors. /s
Truth doesn’t matter, reality doesn’t matter, their OWN MYTHOLOGY doesn’t matter to them. Most of them haven’t even read their own manual outside the dozen or so cherry picked verses that they use somewhat interchangeably for conflicting messages, once a week for 45 minutes.
Oh I know I’m still reeling from the hypocrisy after 8 years of Catholic school and that was over 30 years ago.
I read the title and came to this exact conclusion. I assumed prayer was being used as a form of protest and that was banned by the feds. What’s misleading? Prayer is protected speech, even as a form of protest, no?
Title says “in,” means within the grounds of the facility that these protesters were denied access. “At” would probably be a better preposition, or maybe ‘around.’ “In” implies that they’ve banned detainees from prayer.
Maybe it was edited but it says “outside of” now
They couldn’t pass up the chance to simultaneously ban religious freedom and freedom of speech. Double-tap on the first amendment!
This is why many communities enforce the post title being the same as the article title. The title provided is incredibly misleading, whereas the actual article title is not.
Stand in the road with a upsidedown bible.
Good.
GOP continuing to do what they acuse others of wanting to do.
And their base, that got all frothy mad about the imaginary others doing it, yet again remaining silent when they are the ones doing it.
So a story. Loosely related to topic. And I’m feeling like giving it.
Firstly I don’t smoke and never have. And if you have ever had service jobs or any number of other jobs, you probably realize that a lot of the times, only smokers get actual breaks.
So I was working for this western shop. Small family owned.
Literal 3 generations of “men” worker there. The grandpa , who thought he was boss, the dad, who was probably actually the boss. Definitely thought he was. And the son. Who was like 30. He thought he was running everything. He wasn’t. The wife of the dad also was a frequent visitor. They went to some fancy church in st. Louis. (A 3 hr drive away) And constantly told everyone what great christians they were.Anywho. That’s just flavor for the story. Not super relevant.
So when I worked my 8 hrs doing repair work (boots, bags , leather stuff) I was told I got 2x 15 min breaks (paid) and 1 half hour lunch. Unpaid.
Since I don’t smoke I would go to the break room and read. This was like 20 years ago. So I brought in a paperback.
Well one day the boss dad’s bitchy wife came in. She also thought she was the main boss.
She saw me in the break room reading and was like “what are you doing back here !?!”. I explained I was on my break, Reading. Not bothering no body.
She said “if you are just going to sit back here. You don’t deserve a break.”
She talked to dad-boss. Next day, boss dad says they aren’t required by law to give me those 2x paid 15 min breaks and that I wouldn’t be getting them anymore. And to suck it up.
But literally every other co worker smoked .
So they still got their breaks. Only I was no longer allowed my breaks.
I said this to boss man and told to get back to work. And said legally it was a privilege to have given me the breaks in the first place and I should be grateful I ever even had them.
Honestly dealing with the 3 men who all thought they were my boss. Telling me to do 3 different things. Then getting bitched out by each of them telling me not to listen to the other two and constantly threatening to fire me. … was not great but I needed the job.
But after the break b.s. I think I just had enough.
Plus one incident kinda tipped me to the breaking point. I was working at my station and concentrating and didn’t hear a customer come in to the store (the front of the store sold boots and Western crap). And the dad boss came up behind me. Leaned in and whispered in my ear that if I failed to notice a customer walking in , one more time, and didn’t go out and help them immediately,I was fired. Because the floor girl was on her smoke break. Of course. And I was supposed to do both jobs during her break.
I waited until Thursday, pay day, and then said , for all to hear. I wouldn’t be coming in tomorrow but I would be back in 2 weeks for my last check.
And the three boss guys had the audacity to ask me why. Had something happened? What was the problem?
It really put me in a bad place financially because I had no family or anything to lend me money but I did survive until I found a new job.
Also I made minimum wage. Was like $6.50 at the time I think.
No insurance. No dental. I did miss a few days of work due to my wisdom teeth being impacted. Which I could not afford to remove. And bosses gave me shit about that until I said if you paid me better I’d get them removed but it was $1400 upfront. (Took me 3 more years before I could afford to get them removed with regular abscesses and near constant discomfort).
The title of this post reminded me of how “no break” or “no prayer” is actually likely just a way to punish a specific person or group.
I doubt it applies to Christians.
Just like the smokers still got their break.
Also fuck the lack of labor laws in this country. And how dental care is considered a luxury. (20 years ago and I still remember how much my mouth hurt all the time and how fortunate I found a dentist that would keep writing me prescriptions for antibiotics for 3 years without going to his office cause he knew what situation I was in).
Oh and how reading a book makes people insecure about their intelligence so they punish you for their shortcomings.
One of the worse places ive ever worked. Not the worst. But up there.
Not going to name the company but it’s located in the small city of Quincy IL.
I don’t live there now so I’ll drop the city name. The dad boss had these goofy commercials that ran on TV all the time. People were surprised when I told them that the goofy guy in the video was a serious POS.
Also I wish I knew my skill value more when I was younger. Not too many people can sew or do leather repair work.
I should definitely have been paid more.
“Don’t deserve a break of you’re going to just sit here” that’s the whole fucking idea of a break, to just sit and do what you want! Were you supposed to be doing something productive? Apparently you only deserve a break if you’re damaging your health
Not too many people can sew or do leather repair work.
Truth. (At least not well.) Glad you were able to get out of there.
Ended up working at Pizza Hut for 2 years. Impacted molars motivated me to go to a job fair to try to find work with insurance. And I did eventually get a better job. Paid $10 starting out. Data entry.
3 months, in, as soon as my insurance kicked in, I got those damn teeth removed. Even with insurance it was over a grand up front.
I tell any teen kid I know (nieces, nephews, neighbors kids, etc). “Get those wisdom teeth out before you lose your Medicaid or parents insurance. Seriously. Don’t fuck around”.
That’s because people have been praying to false heathen gods instead of the One True God King Trump.
I thought the MAGA cult was supposed to be super religious
You’re confusing those who were duped by trump with those doing the duping.
Religion is useful to him. He isn’t actually religious. He doesn’t have any actual beliefs other than that he should be powerful, rich, important, revered and in the news.
Protecting people isn’t his thing. He’s only protecting the pedophile friends of Epstein because he is one and releasing the unedited files would make him look bad.
Trump is loyal like Pluto is warm.
He loves people praying for him. He can’t abide people criticising him. Hates it.
Theyve pivoted from standard religions to their cult following. It has special exceptions.
Can you imagine the fallout if Obama had done anything like this?
Taking religious freedom away, surely this will make conservatives reevaluate their support for this godless pro-child rapist administration /S
I’m so confused.
Why are you confused? Dictators control everything in your life. If religion is working against them, guess what? Religion becomes the enemy as well.
