• degenerate_neutron_matter@fedia.io
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    List of blocked words in community names:

    shit
    piss
    fuck
    cunt
    cocksucker
    motherfucker
    tits
    memes
    piracy
    196
    greentext
    usauthoritarianism
    enoughmuskspam
    political_weirdos
    4chan
    

    Seems like one of the PieFed devs has some opinions about the kind of content they dislike, and are unilaterally forcing that on every PieFed instance. I can somewhat understand filtering out curse words, but specific communities should not blocked by default, and definitely not hidden in a hardcoded list in the source code.

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      kind of content they dislike

      Or they like it and e.g. want just one strong 196 community.

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      Isn’t there a Java based Lemmy compatible thing too? I forgot what it was called but I think there is one.

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      I’m not okay with them filtering profanity, who the fuck are they to define what is or is not acceptable?

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      This isn’t the first time I’ve encountered an extremely pointed line of code in piefed meant to fuck over one person specifically. It’s very concerning now that it’s a pattern.

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      Damn this should honestly be spread and talked about more. I don’t think many people know this is a thing?

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        Considering PieFed users won’t shut the fuck up about how much better and less politically opinionated it is, yeah we should probably shout this from the rooftops.

        Reminds me of Brave browser users a bit

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          “Ours is not biased and less opinionated, because it agrees with my bias and opinions.”

          This is every single Lemmy v PieFed update. No matter what platform you host or use, its just this on the grand scale of things.

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          One of PyFed’s selling points was that it was easier to work with than Lemmy. It’s going to be amusing when that takes a 180 turn and people start complaining.

          Python is great for prototyping and iterating on small projects or as glue for modules written in C and C++. What it isn’t great at is linearly scaling on a single node. When the day that throwing more powerful hardware at the problem stops being an option, Kubernetes is going to walk through that door and fuck any semblance of simplicity up.

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            I think Lemmy has some in-memory data structures that limit the backend to a single node, too. Also postgres is great, but Lemmy really fucked up their database performance somehow.

            But yeah large python codebases turn into spaghetti really quickly.

    • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.social
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      They also put “memes” and “enoughmuskspam.”

      The latter I guess could be used to stop Musk spam (since the community is literally nothing but Elon Musk news) but not allowing the word “memes” in a community name?

      Utterly stupid.

      But they do appear to be fans of Carlin based on the first 7 banned words.

      There’s no racial slurs in there either. I might have assumed this was merely an example an operator is meant to edit themselves, but these are some weird ass choices for even that.

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      So if I started a piefed instance and wanted to host a 196 community I’d have to edit the list, but would every single other instance also have to or no?

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        Yes, every other instance would also refuse to federate unless they also changed their code. Because the blocklist is baked right into the code, so anyone just pulling and running it as-is will fail to federate.

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          It’s odd that communities with those names load if they’re hosted on Lemmy, tho. Or maybe I’ve just only been on Piefed Instances that undid the list.

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      They’re pretty explicit about what they don’t like when you sign up. That’s why I joined it

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        Each instance should be free to set their own rules. Individual instances blocking those communities is fine, but the PieFed devs hardcoding a blocklist that applies to all instances (especially one as opinionated and arbitrary as this) is absolutely not.

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          Each instance should be free to set their own rules.

          They… are though? Maybe I am dumb, but I do not understand why each instance setting its own rules would apply to all other instances? Say if you made your own instance, you would set your own rules, but the other instances are free to set theirs as well? Like if you want to allow communities such as “4chan”, then go ahead, but if others want to block that, then why shouldn’t they be allowed to?

          Definitely agree that this issue should be made much more transparent and easier to change, like not hard-coding it.

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            This filter is not part of any specific instance, it’s hardcoded into PieFed’s code. That means it applies to every PieFed instance unless the instance admin explicitly patches the code to remove it.