• Noite_Etion@lemmy.world
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    What is this fucking headline. He is not in a position to float changes like this.

    Trump plans on circumventing the law and becoming a forever president king.

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      He is absolutely in a position to change this. It’s become abundantly clear that we’re way too culturally fractured as a nation and will never unify for any single cause. The DOJ is in his back pocket and there is zero chance all 350 million of us can put our differences aside to stop him, especially since a ton of people want this.

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        Well he can’t unilaterally cancel the elections, for example, you know California will hold elections. The question would be whether he gets congress to ignore the results of the midterms.

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          Maybe not cancel in an official capacity, but he could still stop them. He didn’t use official channels to try to stop Joe Biden from becoming president in 2021, he just had his followers use the front door instead.

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      It’s how he normalizes his insane plans without being directly implicit. He starts with the “I’m not saying they should cancel the elections. But if they did… I’m not saying they should do it though. But I mean, it wouldn’t be unheard of.”

      Anyone who has ever worked as a restaurant server knows the old “blame they, not yourself” trick. Forgot to bring out some table’s food, and now they’re upset that it’s taking so long? Don’t apologize for it and take the blame, because that will have them potentially tipping you less. Instead, say “Oh, did they not bring that out? Let me go take care of that real quick.” Now you’ve deflected blame off to some faceless entity, and have put yourself on the customer’s side as someone who wants to help. Your tip won’t be affected, because you’ve positioned yourself as helpful.

      Notice that when Trump floats ideas like this, it’s almost always “they”, not “we”. “They” is a faceless, nebulous entity. It can be anybody or nobody, so placing blame on “they” is a convenient way to float potentially unpopular ideas without putting any individual (or himself) in the crosshairs. If he used “we”, he would naturally be the figurehead for the idea, and any blowback would land on him.

      It’s a message to his followers on what he wants, without directly tying himself to it. And it allows the various talking heads to use it as a springboard to normalize the idea before it is ever implemented. That way when the thing actually happens, his followers have already been primed to accept it.

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        Whenever he says “They say I’m not supposed to talk about X, I’ll get into big trouble, but maybe we should X”, then you know they’re planning to X.

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        Insightful comment, thanks. The frustrating part for me is that the media has a tendency to parrot his talking points without directly challenging them in the same breath. That allows his narrative to take hold (especially when it is backed by other members of the government) and steer popular opinion in his favor.

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      Prove to me that he’s not already a king. He suffers zero consequences and solely controls every aspect of the federal government. He is what a 6 year old thinks the president is.

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        Almost all of his “decrees” get overturned. Most of those decisions get somewhere followed. His people try to operate through loopholes in the laws rather than outright violating them. He wouldn’t be tiptoing around vague legality this much if he were actually a king

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        Oh he is effectively a king (the real burger king), I just wish news articles would call him out without resorting to headlines like this.

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          They never will. Media companies want to get in on the grift and get their cut. Every lawsuit that went to trial has been a blow to that shitheel of a human, but companies keep bendin nthe fucking knee and settling at best.

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        The U.S. Supreme Court somehow handed down a major ruling that stops him from deploying National Guard to American cities… and he’s abiding by it. Is that what a king would do?

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          He’s sending cbp and ice instead. The guard was just a stop gap while the pardoned the future ice recruits. Which scotus allowed until ice was staffed up.

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          The same Supreme Court that gave him license to do whatever he wants without any legal repercussions as long as he calls it presidential affairs?

          That’s a king. He’s a king.

          As an aside by doing this the Supreme Court effectively retroactively exonerated Nixon. The US is a joke.

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              The floor is yours, you can nitpick semantics and discuss esoteric constitutional law, and in the end we will end up at the fact that it protects the President far far outside anything reasonable. It was a sycophantic ruling that was put in place by a corrupt court.

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            You’re conveniently glossing over the fact that kings don’t adhere to any court rulings.

            You know what this is? You just want to feel justified in your nihilism. If he already has absolute control as a king, then nothing can be done and we all might as well give up, right?

            Wrong. The regime hasn’t fully concentrated power, they aren’t invulnerable, and anyone who pretends otherwise is fucking complicit.

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            without any legal repercussions

            He can’t be indicted. That’s not really the same as “without any legal repercussions”. The Supreme Court can stop him, and has on a few occasions. He doesn’t have to be a literal monarch, he’s a fascist pedophile which represents the worst our species has to offer. That’s plenty reason to be rid of him.

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      Who’s gonna stop him? Certainly not the citizens, not the government, and not any foreign country.

      The amount of shit a pedophile in the NSA (Nazi States of America) can get away with is unprecedented. And the Ameri-cunts are too lazy to get off their sofas to do anything.

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        The amount of shit a pedophile in the NSA (Nazi States of America) can get away with is unprecedented.

        This country was founded on genocide, pedophilia is obviously terrible but this entire shit nation is literally predicated on the violent erasure of an entire people. This isn’t new. It’s depraved, it’s a failure of humanity, it’s worth doing everything we can do to stop it, but it’s not new.

        And if you think Americans are lazy, you have obviously never been to America, or at least not spent any time around working class families. Most Americans are extremely overworked. If they do nothing in their limited downtime (when many people also have to raise children), that’s not being “lazy”, that’s being exploited and exhausted. As well as very, very distracted, a little light on the bread but pretty heavy on the circus. Grow some class consciousness or continue spreading the rhetoric of the enemy.

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          They’re lazy. Too lazy to vote.

          Even arseholes have to work to earn money in that country. That isn’t as much of a plug as you think. I know some fucking horrible, horrible people who physically work hard. Only Americans think the desire to do physical work is a virtue.

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            You think voting a Democrat in would’ve made anything better?

            That’s cute. Entirely ignorant of history or American politics, but cute.

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                For Americans? Maybe not, at least not immediately. For Palestinians? Yes, that’s exactly what she said, “no deviation” from Biden’s policies which led to an internationally-recognized genocide. I am not willing to step over piles of dead children to vote to protect my own comfort, as I’ve repeatedly said.

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              You think voting in a Democrat

              You going to tell me it’d be as bad as this? Of course voting Harris in would have made things better. For both Americans and the Palestinians they horribly use to cover their lack of responsibility. But that’s Americans though, isn’t it? They’ll happily let others die for their own feelings and you are no different from the rest.

              ignorant of American politics

              The only way Americans can fix this with the system they have is to vote in such a manner in primaries that elects the progressive they want, then vote for them in the general election. That’s it, there is no other way. Trying to force centrists you help put in because you don’t vote is never, ever going to work. That’s the only way.

              I might be cute. You lack responsibility and use slaughtered people as your scapegoat.

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                You going to tell me it’d be as bad as this?

                For Americans? Maybe not, at least not immediately. For Palestinians? Yes, that’s exactly what she said, “no deviation” from Biden’s policies which led to an internationally-recognized genocide. I am not willing to step over piles of dead children to vote to protect my own comfort, as I’ve repeatedly said.

                The only way Americans can fix this with the system they have is to vote in such a manner in primaries that elects the progressive they want, then vote for them in the general election.

                Yeah that went great with Bernie Sanders, when people clearly supported him so the DNC rigged their primaries to guarantee he lost then had a court declare they were legally within their right to do so.

                You live in a fantasyland. A benevolent fantasy, which is better than the Nazis, but still a fantasy.

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                  For Palestinians

                  Yeah look, you’re using that as your excuse. You don’t care about these people, you helped underwrite their slaughter and you’re using them as an excuse so not only is this redundant, it’s repulsive.

                  that went great with Bernie Sanders

                  It might have if you’d turned out better and that’s one election. One. You need to do that for all of them and had you been doing that from the get go the US would be vastly different from the rest.

                  you live in a fantasyland

                  I live in a decent society because we vote.

                  You can always guarantee tankies will throw the toys from the cot with their childish shit the moment a mirror is lifted. If you’re not a plant, one day you’ll grow up and realise how you helped kill millions of people then used their deaths as reasons to blame others.

                  Anyway, go crawl under your rock please. I’m not engaging with you anymore, I have a football match to watch.

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                    damn didn’t expect to meet a telepath on Lemmy today. Fascinating, impressive.

                    I live in a decent society

                    Must be nice, what country? I live in a fascist empire.

                    You can always guarantee tankies

                    Not a tankie, your telepathy malfunctioned that time I guess, it’s ok

                    one day you’ll grow up

                    I’m 30 in a few months, and if growing up entails endorsing genocide to preserve my own privilege and comfort, I’m happy to pass on that

                    Anyway, go crawl under your rock please. I’m not engaging with you anymore, I have a football match to watch.

                    But you already said that

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      He’s not in a position to break the US and International law either, but here we are…