• FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca
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    If you’re an adult who has been put in charge of an entire government department, you should take responsibility for your actions

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      I am equally shocked and completely unsurprised this wooden amalgamation of a parody of a human actually used the “I was just following orders” line. Not a dumb guard or a patrol agent or a desk clerk, but an actual Secretary of Homeland Security. (for whatever prestige or value is held in a position that was invented in 2003 because white people suddenly got scared of Muslims.)

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        Well that’s the wonderful thing about being a cult leader. You’re the only one who can solve the problem. So you get whatever you want, you get all the credit when things go well, and when everything goes wrong… you become everyone’s scapegoat. It’s not a valid excuse, but it is human psychology.

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    PeeWee Himmler is a student of Nazi Germany, and expected that Americans would fold up like Germans still recovering from WW1. He thought that murdering a few people in the streets would intimidate the entire country into staying in their houses. He doesn’t understand that Americans grow up hearing fables of Revolutionaries whooping the most powerful army in the world.

    Americans don’t get intimidated, they get angrier, and eventually they get ferocious.

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      Tbh a big portion is that we have nearly live coverage from a million different angles. Without that the newspapers would have said he was a domestic terrorist and we would have had no further information.

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        Valid.

        It’s hard to convince us when we have footage from every angle, which is the reason for all these “auditors” with cameras, and also the reason that ICE Apes consider cameras almost as dangerous as guns.

        Minnesota is complaining that they can’t prosecute the killers without the evidence that DHS stole, but it seems to me that all the evidence they require is the many videos of each incident. Just play those for the jury, and they’ll convict.

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      And then we take a song you wrote to mock us and sing it as a celebration of that time we kicked your ass.

      The club of those who beat us includes only three members, two of which were proxy wars we ultimately weren’t willing to commit to. Not exactly a record that screams “easy target”

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        Who are the 3 countries? Canada, Vietnam, Afghanistan, ottoman empire, or cuba? Im sure there’s more that’s just off the top of my head.

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      All they’re doing is pissing off the people who already have guns, while convincing their political rivals to start buying guns.

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    shes evil, she knows shes evil, she enjoys that shes evil, but cant admit that shes evil bcs she knows everybody hates her.

    the essence of being a right-wing nutjob

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    Isla, She Wolf of the SS, is going to find out the hard way the bimbos are the first to get thrown under the bus in that party.

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    Welp, we won’t be seeing her much longer.

    Guess she’ll have to fall back on her hobby of shooting puppies in the face.

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    Kristi’s braincell: don’t say you were just following orders, don’t say you were just following orders…

    “It was Stephen!”

    Kristi’s braincell: nice 😎

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      I bet the fights, screaming matches, broken lamps, slammed doors and broken phones in the white house over the last week has been fucking glorious. I would pay thousands to be a fly on a wall there just to watch these unhinged freaks become unhinged freaks at each other when everything starts going off course.

      They thought it would be different by now. They expected more legal victories (it’s not covered but they’ve lost a LOT of ground in courts) and they thought they would have a stronger public mandate, they thought liberal, middle-class America would be looking at them like saviors and heroes by now, they thought their WWE fireworks and spectacle would win over more than the same, steady 28% - 30% of the country.

      But here we are, Trump is becoming unmanageable and may literally just DIE at any moment, they’ve made reverse progress getting JD Vance ready to take the reigns, and everyone is just staring at Miller, this egg-headed wormtongue that keeps feeding Trump schizoid lines because he’s basically just Elliot Rogers reincarnated. And now there are waves of rolling strikes going around, and the conservatives broadly are absolutely enraged about threats to their guns. Even the liberal nightly news is on network TV is outright saying Trump and his admin are making shit up. The tide is turning sharply.

      There is some satisfaction in all this.

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        Oh it’s absolutely beautiful. For the first time in a year and a half, I’m not fucking ashamed of my tribe; and I look forward to feeling similar about my government.

        Yoo. Ess. Ay.

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    Y’all really don’t understand that this headline is tailored for you.

    In Noem’s mind, this says “Kristi Noem Credits Her Actions to Trump and Stephen Miller.”

    She’s running to the MAGA safehouse. This isn’t “I was following orders.” This is “I was given orders, and look at how perfectly I followed them!”

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      Ah, but she just sinned against Trump. She said something that can be interpreted as blaming Trump. That’s a big no no to a narcissist.

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        You can only see it this way if you’re on the receiving end of a left-oriented headline. Your perspective is fueled by clickbait. Trump’s perspective is still mafia mentality.

        Trump’s already publicly defended her on Fox News, and I can’t tell if a throwaway quote on Axios or Trump standing in a Golden Corral or whatever the fuck it is, giving an interview about how she’s “done it all” happened first - it’s a matter of hours. Point is, she is loyal AF and she is his last line of defense on everything DHS does. He needs her now more than ever and she’s survived much worse several times over already. She’s the shield he uses for everything - and he’s positioning himself that way for a long-term benefit to him. Bovnio was always disposable because he’s not in the money club. Noem is, and she’s young enough to have a career after all this if our timeline gets worse. Even if she gets impeached.

        Trump can’t play Noem out until it’s worth it to him, and it’s no where near that yet. Bovino was the cost already, and no one liked him on the right anyway. Plus he flew too close to the sun, and THAT was the sin to a narcissist, to think he could play at the same level. His job was as a shield for Noem, full stop. Homan is next up until he installs the next public-facing nazi cosplayer and goes to Maine to also be the fodder for the next round. Trump hates LEOs and the military until he needs them, and so they’re the disposable ones to him.

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          Except Stephen Miller explicitly said they were doing it wrong and they were looking into why things were being done incorrectly…

          It seems like they are spinning into it is being done wrong but it’s their fault, maybe up to and including Noem…

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          I get what you mean, but just now Trump is distancing himself from the negative perception of the ICE murders, so it might be a bad time for her to point the ownership at him.

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      I agree with you, this is her intent. But Trump and Steven will throw her under the bus to give the people a culprit and then keep doing everything they’ve been doing. This is why they sent Bovino home and replaced him with Homan.

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        Never. Or…not never, but not until it’s really worth it. Noem absorbs flak for Trump, Bovino absorbed it for Noem. Homan is just Senior Manager playing Middle Manager until they get some new idiot in there to do the job and absorb flak for both of them.

        Homan knows enough to stay in DC and out of the way of televised action. He’s been an appointee for 22 years. He’s not stupid, he’s not a MAGA appointee chud, and he’s not naive. He knows the politics of his job and knows that as an Obama-era appointee, even if he looks like he slipped up, he’s out with that mark on his record to blame. He might be loyal, but he can never live down that original sin and so he goes on TV to slur his way through a Meet the Press interview and defend Trump to extend his worth one more week at a time.

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          Agreed – they do seem to have a higher bar in 2.0 for the level of absurdity they can get away with without tossing acolytes under the bus.

          Interesting about Homan, I haven’t been following for that long. Didn’t realize his history.

          And I guess the real point is that this article is meaningless because even if she does go away, it doesn’t matter. They’re still going to keep doing what they are doing. We haven’t won yet.

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      “I was given orders, and look at how perfectly I followed them!”

      You can’t run to MAGA if you blame Trump for anything, they won’t accept it.

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        There’s that word again. “Blame” is a word that includes judgement imposed on you by the medium. Judgement is 100% absent from how Trump will get the information, and he absolutely does not care about what someone else says about someone else because he’s a narcissist. They will gladly all say “Oh, I dunno…ask the other person…” until the news cycle ends and this whole Iran invasion happens.

        FFS, if Kash Patel is still in with these people, and Noem is displaying solid gold loyalty, this will blow over in a day or two. Really. Set a reminder on your phone for a week from now, or two weeks, and either give me a solid " I told you so" or not.

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        It’s extremely inconsequential for all of them to just blame the person that’s least likely to face justice for any crimes, so it seems even that was a calculated fold, even if it folded like a cheap suit.