Why should I be scared? Bribes being taken and acted on is nothing new. Indeed in today’s world its more normal than ever.
Start selling Volvo’s newest model… The Volvo Polestar
I’m getting so tired of reading fucking “that should terrify you!” In headlines. We are all sufficiently fucking terrified shut the fuck up.
Just that type of headline that tells you how you should feel period. Thank you headline, I’m now annoyed. It’s never any other emotion youre trying to force on me, just irritation or rage. That and the whole ‘read that again’. Fuck off.
In our reverse world, the more hyperbolic the title is the less worthwhile content the article contains. Use this to filter out content that can be safely (ironically) ignored.
100% I have enough actually traumatic things happening around me tyvm.
This is proof that you should never bend the knee or try to appease that facist state. Polestar moved production to the US and still got banned. They don’t believe in non-zero sum economics, you will always be the loser even when both party’s could win.
Being an American wanting an electric car must be a nightmare!
Not many options, and all of them are too expensive, because competition is stifled by keeping competition out with insane tariffs.In Europe we are spoiled with choice, lots of European brands with lots of models, and we even have American although we don’t want them, but we also have Chinese although they do have an EU import tax, to compensate for the Chinese subsidies.
But several Chinese brands are becoming quite popular, especially BYD and XPeng have become popular here in Denmark.
In Europe we are spoiled with choice
Even more so in Australia, as we have zero tariffs, as the new EU trade agreement removed the small tarrif that was on EI cars, none on Chinese cars.
I have a BYD and charge off solar panels on my roof
Awesome, we do that too, and haven’t felt the increased oil/gas prices at all. 😎
It’s almost as though Tesla is being granted a monopoly.
Yeah, it’s extremely frustrating here. The EV market actively sucks with limited options and inflated prices. I also bought a used Polestar 2 last year, so now I’m extra frustrated.
My guess, however, is that PS just didn’t care to deal with obtaining the waiver- the brand has sold poorly here in the US and they’ve been posturing to exit the market for a few years.
I wasn’t even aware they were selling in the US. I used to pay attention since they seemed to have compelling vehicles, but never here and never affordable
For some reason Polestar doesn’t seem to be doing as well as it deserves in many markets.
I hope you can have yours maintained as long as is required even if they leave the market.It was a runner up when we bought our EV.
If they’re priced the same as the US models, it’s little wonder they’re not selling well. MSRP for the P2 was ~70k USD which is a non-starter for most folks.
I got mine used at 4 years old with 74k miles on it (fortunately EVs generally tend to last towards 200k miles barring any other issues) for 20k, it’s the only reason I could afford to buy it. Otherwise I was probably going to go with an ID.4 which was at a similar price point. What did you end up going with?
Here in Denmark a Polestar 2 is just below $50,000 excluding VAT but including all other taxes.
Competition in USA is absolutely destroyed by crazy tariffs.That’s still ridiculously high for a car. When my wife and I bought a new car a couple years ago we really stretched the bank to make a $35,000 car work.
That’s still ridiculously high for a car.
Yes it is a expensive, it used to be way cheaper, in 2022 it was “only” $43,000 IDK why the price has increased, I suppose they have made improvements.
Here $35,000 ex vat is a bit below average, which is probably more like $40,000 USD. Which is the starting price of the ID.4 here in Denmark.
Our 4 year old VW ID.4 cost $32,000 IDK including VAT or $26,000 excluding VAT.
So here we have nearly a similar hit for a 4 year used car! I hope you got a nice car. 😀
I’m not sure how VAT equivocates to tax tag and title here in the US, but for $35,000 car it should still be less than $1000. I pay a bit less than the average person because I’m Native and I go through my tribe instead of the state I live in, but I don’t think the rate I get is less than like half the state rate. A few years ago the same car would’ve been in the $29,000 range. At the time we got the car things were so crazy in the used market that it actually was about $100 less per month for us to get the new car then to get a four year-old used car of the same model.
Thank you, we got a Mazda CX-50. It’s a lot nicer than my 2004 Chrysler Sebring was with 280k miles (~450600km)! I’m not the primary driver so as long as my wife is happy with it I’m happy.
Hopefully wages will start reflecting prices someday.
We ended up with a 4 year old ID.4, 😋
We could have had a more powerful Polestar cheaper, except my wife didn’t want anything Chinese, and insurance was more than 50% more expensive on the faster Polestar.
But we got a nice ID.4 77 kWh battery, and with literally all the options included.
One of our neighbors however went with the Volvo, which is also very nice.Driving electric is really nice IMO, it feels absolutely super luxury compared to a similar ICE car.
Driving electric is really nice IMO, it feels absolutely super luxury compared to a similar ICE car.
Even better for those of us who can charge at home or work. It’s so nice never having to go to a local gas station
Absolutely agreed, I can’t imagine going back to an ICE car for my daily driver unless I absolutely have to.
I periodically have to rent a car for work (I travel a lot) and never realized how much noise engines make until it was conspicuously missing from car. The PS is also just super comfortable and feels great on the road, while my rentals rarely are/do.
The PS is also just super comfortable and feels great on the road,
If the seats are as good as in the Volvo, they are absolutely stellar. We have luxury seats in our ID.4, but the ones in our neighbors Volvo are even better.
We always had European style cars with very good driving capabilities, but I’m still impressed that the ID.4 as a CUV is able to match them, it is a good deal higher than what we are used to, but the low weight balance because of the batteries, makes it way better in road capability than it looks. 👍
One of the things I really can still enjoy, is when turning into a bigger road, that smooth quiet confident way the car handles.
But not having a manual gear is also a first for us with this car, so that is part of it, probably not much of a factor in USA.Yeah, the seats are fantastic. I also know exactly what you mean about turning into the road with confidence- the ID.4 was the first EV I test drove and that feeling absolutely sold me on electric!
I never had the opportunity to drive a manual, so I don’t really know what I’m missing I guess. Automatic transmission is the de facto standard here. I don’t love the little gear shift on the PS and find having a separate parking button unintuitive, but it’s still miles ahead of the cars with weird buttons or dials for shifting. I didn’t mind the shifter on the ID.4 either, I learned to drive on a truck with a stalk gear shift like that.
The price point for electric cars in America is 25-30k. 70K is mentally ill
The average price for a new EV in the US is much closer to $40-50k with a range from $25k to >$100k per this US News article. Most EVs are well outside any dream of affordability for the average American, but it makes sense given the ICE market is also increasingly more expensive every year.
Polestar isn’t an entry level or budget brand- they make luxury vehicles and price them as such. It doesn’t make the MSRP less insane and I question why anyone would pay that, but there’s clearly a market for luxury vehicles here given the popularity of BMW, Audi, and other luxury brands that sell ICE cars.
The price point for electric cars in America is 25-30k. 70K is mentally ill
Chevy Bolt MSRP is $28,995.
Tesla model 3 starts at $38k now. Somehow teslas went from being expensive vehicles to one of the more affordable EVs and no one noticed.
It’s just a Volvo. Volvo specialists will maintain it. They’ll also maintain Lynk&Co probably.
Hey just a friendly reminder those Chinese EVs are backdoored with an Elon style god mode like Tesla. Lots of modern cars have a similar issue but EVs get it bad. Tl;dr rip out your car’s modem.
I bet all the new cars are unfortunately, my VW is also constantly connected to VW.
We need to make that shit illegal. Until then we have to live with it, just as with our smartphones.
I know I can install AOSP and get rid of it, and I did use that for years, but I just want the hassle anymore.Not ALL but most yeah. It’s partially just for data mining to make new cars more profitable but is also an easy way for spooks to RC a car
It’s gets better. Even if you find an EV, the states tax you more than an ICE car. Texas has a $200 yearly fee to supposedly make up for lost gas tax revenue. But at 20c/gallon and assuming 30mpg, I’d have to drive 30,000 miles to offset that cost (only drove about 8,500 miles per year).
And now they want to do the same at the Federal level with another $150 tax (federal taxes are 18c/gallon), which would be another 25,000 miles.
So I would be taxed $350/year to offset “gas tax losses”, which would only even out for me if I were to drive 55,000 miles in a year.
I heard about that, and that’s crazy. You gotta love all that freedom. 🤥
I don’t drive nearly that much either.
I understand the logic of the tax on gas to pay for roads, but here an EV is taxed less because it pollutes less. USA needs more of that.I understand the logic of the tax on gas to pay for roads
But even that doesn’t really hold up. Gas tax depending on state, generally covers less than half of road maintenance and is already unfair because of hybrids and other efficient vehicles.
And the bulk of the damage is probably from big trucks anyway
Realistically we should be taxing by weight and miles driven as the former causes the most damage to the roads. At that point the propulsion type and efficiency don’t really matter. EVs actually would be taxed more given that they’re heavier, but it’d also proportionately tax trucks and larger vehicles correctly at that point.
You could easily implement it with a yearly odometer reading with your registration or inspection and every car has a GVWR registered with it.
Yes that would be fair, but IMO there should be an environment tax on gas.
How about just metering charging infrastructure and taxing by the kilowatt hr? Power consumed is directly proportional to the weight, distance, and rate of travel. A simple mandate that all home charging stations have to have a wireless or remote-readable meter attached, and all public fast-chargers are taxed by KWh. Easy, simple, and nearly frictionless.
No, that doesn’t work. You can charge anywhere.
If you watch that “Technology Connections” video that keeps going around Lemmy, you should not waste your money on a home charging station
- technically you can charge at a standard outlet. It works for some people
- I also have adapters for tool outlets, dryer outlets, rv outlets (a dryer outlet could charge as quickly as the charging stations where I work)
A home charging station is just a convenience. A really nice convenience that I highly recommend, but unnecessary
Power consumed is directly proportional to the weight, distance, and rate of travel
And if we’re trying to be fair, that’s really not true either. There’s a wide range of efficiencies for different vehicles. On the extreme end, if Aptera succeeds, those drivers would pay nothing. More importantly, this also gives them another opportunity to charge unfairly to defend ICE vehicles
Simple weight and miles, regardless of technology and efficiency, and recorded at annual inspection or purchase/sale - ideally also keep the gas tax to help pay for its impact on the environment
So by that logic you don’t have to pay tax for electric consumption, right? Right? Damn USA became such a cesspool…
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While it could be better. There’s a lot of great deals on used EVs around 20k. Plus we have Lucid, which has the longest range of any ev in the world afaik.
If we had the Chinese EVs then the prices would be a lot more reasonable.
I think the Mercedes beats it:
The Mercedes-Benz EQS 450+ Sedan. Thanks to a massive 122 kWh (usable) battery pack and ultra-aerodynamic design, it achieves up to 926 km (575 miles) of range on the WLTP cycle.
But IDK for sure, because they use different measurements.
Being an American wanting an electric car must be a nightmare! Not many options, and all of them are too expensive,
Chevy Bolt MSRP is $28,995.
I’m waiting to see if Slate can hit their crazy $24,950 target base price. With a 65kWh battery, that’s a pretty great price. That’s almost cheaper than buying batteries alone. I’m wondering if it will be able to do home backup power.
Just looked it up, GM claims it has a 65 kWh battery, and 150 kW DC charging rate. That’s not bad.
But it’s only 1 option. Where in Denmark we have 16 options below $25,000.
I’m interested to see how the low-cost Chinese brands do on longer-term reliability. Their initial build quality is generally good, but their product cycles are so short that I don’t see how they can capture knowledge that leads to them correcting design defects. To me, it looks like too much churn. But maybe they’ll be fine. We’ll have to see.
This is absolutely an issue, having used many 2nd hand cars for decades, most of them Japanese but also French because they were cheap, I was extremely astounded when we bought a 14 year old German built Opel Vectra, we had it until it reached 20 with next to no repairs, before it finally gave in mostly because of a legal technicality.
When we had our new (used) car at the shop, and borrowed an only 8 year old mid range car, there was no doubt that compared to that, our 20 year old Vectra was still a way nicer car, faster, smoother, more powerful and better comfort, and also better looking IMO, and would absolutely be worth the repair that was only a sixth of what that 8 year old car cost on the free market!
Problem is that our old Vectra is $850 in taxes per year, because the fuel economy isn’t as good as newer cars. And that $850 per year tax kills the economy of keeping it.
Our new car that is heavier and way more powerful is only $100 in taxes per year!! Because it’s an EV.I’ve got a bad feeling about overall repairability. Glue and potting used throughout.
Not like American EVs … Oh hang on, another bit fell off a cyber truck
There’s a lot of knowledge about how to build a car that doesn’t apply to EVs. Similarly there’s a lot that does and it will take a while to sort it out. cybertruk is a good example of what not to do on many levels while charging a premium
I’m happy they did try it, tried something very different even if it didn’t succeed.
But as much as Lemmy wants pickups and that is the most frequently bought vehicle in the US, perhaps that was a bad vehicle type to try. Pickup owners are also stereotypically conservative and excessively brand loyal: there a lot going against you in that market.
Look at Ford, also failing but with the opposite strategy. An EV truck trying to be identical to the existing ICE truck was also not the way to go. Their new strategy of an EV for smaller more affordable pickups seems like a winner to me, but we’ll see
While GM continues to sell their EV pickups following the ford strategy of exactly what they’re selling for ICE trucks, they can’t be making any money with how few they sell, anfpd they’ll never sell more with those prices
Standard American build quality
to compensate for the Chinese subsidies.
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rather to keep European manufacturers afloat. Protectionism under a different name.
European car makers too profit from subsidies and they make worse e-cars for double, triple the price.
Protectionism under a different name.
No it’s not, the extra tariff is absolutely to compensate for subsidies in China. When EU subsidized Electric vehicles, the subsidies were equal for cars made in all countries, also outside EU.
China has heavily subsidized both development and production of cars in China. European factories do not get such subsidies, here it was on the sales, and was equal no matter where the car is made. For instance Tesla, Hyundai, Geely, Xpeng too received these subsidies 100% equal to European electric cars sold here.So why don’t you take that ignorant comment and shove it?
USA subsidizes American MADE cars sold in USA protecting their home market, and China subsidizes China made cars in general no matter where they are sold. And that is what EU tax extra. The tax is even adjusted on a per brand basis, so a manufacturer that has not enjoyed high subsidies is not taxed for it.
European car makers too profit from subsidies and they make worse e-cars for double, triple the price.
This is decidedly false, China is still catching up on several aspects, and the price is way more comparable if it’s considered on a level playing field.
Yes China has done extremely well in this segment as they have in others, but they are not better quality than European made cars. Especially not compared to German cars.USA is different than EU with their tariffs on Chinese cars, both in that they are way higher with 125%, where EU tariffs have a base of 10% and an additional protective tariff ranging from ZERO to about 25%.
And I’d be fine with this, if it were temporary and if there were also measures to help legacy manufacturers turn it around. I wish legacy American manufacturers would be able to survive The Biden administration passed a comprehensive package to do that, and that’s basically what the legacy manufacturers wrote off as a loss
But the current situation is just exploiting Americans for higher profits on old technologies in the hope that global competition will help legacy manufacturers turn things around. I’m not seeing that. I’m just seeing them even more stuck on dead end technology, with no incentive to change. The excessive protectionism is permanent until we’re ready to bail out failing car manufacturers
To be fair, Chinese EV’s should have tariffs also because they use virtual slave labor.
Also they are mobile surveillance devices for the chinese government. Unlike american cars which are rolling surveillance devices for the lowest bidder.
I get this, but european Brands lobbied to not implement or stifle the supply chain transparency laws, soooo… none of them guarantee “no slave labor” either. Actually, given their opposition to the laws, it’s reasonable to assume they indeed use slave labor too. So what does that leave the end buyer with?
Are these cheap european electric cars with us in the room right now?
Personally I drive a VW ID4 which is a midrange car in Europe starting at $42,000 USD.
This Citroën ë-C3 is currently the cheapest at $17,218 USD excluding VAT.
https://www.citroen.dk/modeller/e-C3.html
DKK 139,900 kr. incl VAT is 111,920 kr. Excl VAT = $17,218 USD.Here’s a recent list of alternatives:
https://bilmagasinet.dk/guides/billig-elbil16 fully electric BEV car models all below $24,500 USD. 5 of them from China.
Denmark is traditionally a pretty expensive country to buy anything, we have the highest average price index in EU.
So I bet other European countries have even better prices.Well, our eastern block post-communist shithole has the cheapest e-C3 for roughly $22k pre-tax. It’s insane.
I sure hope you have better options then. IDK what country you are in, but it’s weird that it’s more expensive than here.
Maybe it’s because sales of EV is low, when inventory moves slower it makes products more expensive.
Maybe dealerships should just parallel import the cars? It is a free market after all, anyone that wants to can do it.It’s Czech Republic and no, there are probably not any cheaper EVs here. I’m not counting Dacia Spring ($16,5k pre-tax) as it’s Chinese car in disguise and it’s just too small and weak I’d hardly consider it a proper car anyway. Some other “cheap” non-Chinese choices are Hyundai Inster for $21,5k, Fiat Grande Panda for $22k or Renault 5 for $26,5k, all prices pre-tax.
Overall it’s just so expensive here. A lot of people are skeptic about the tech both for being expensive and also because everyone thinks they probably need to drive 800 km every day and charging is too slow… I’d buy EV a long ago if it wasn’t so price prohibitive.
EDIT: Just for comparison, average monthly wage is ~$2300 and median is ~$2100 (before taxation).
I thought Dacia was made in Romania?
We had the Dacia too a few years back, but it disappeared pretty quickly, I suspect it simply wasn’t good enough, exactly because as you say it’s incredibly weak, and has a very small battery, and although it was the cheapest when available, it clearly had worse value than the slightly more expensive competitors.I looked up if you have any particular registration tax on cars in the Czech Republic, and as far as I can trell you don’t, except a very cheap flat fee of CZK 800 (roughly €32) according to Google.
The other cars you mention are pretty close to the prices here. The Inster is $20,800 USD. The Fiat Grande Panda the same, and the Renault 5 $23,400 USD.
So at least not as bad as the Citroen, but still a bit more expensive in the Czech Republic.
That said however, there is a long tradition in Denmark to remove equipment that is standard in other countries, and have it as extras here. Especially smaller rims than standard are common. But also cruise control and seat heating. A package of extras to “upgrade” to normal easily runs up to a couple thousand dollars.
This tradition evolved because Denmark had some of the highest taxes on new cars in Europe. And as a funny side effect, cars were sometimes exported from Denmark, to other countries, because the price without taxes was lower here. This could even be to the country where the car was made. 😋Unfortunately Skoda doesn’t have anything yet in the low price segment, VW recently announced the ID.Polo to arrive next year, maybe there will be an equivalent Skoda?
Skoda are absolutely good cars, I bought the VW instead mostly because it was significantly cheaper as used, and there were more to choose among.Here the median and average are about twice what you get in the Czech Republic. We are personally not up to the average, but we are doing fine anyway. 😋
The usual Dacia is indeed from Romania, but Spring is their first EV and it’s basically some unknown Chinese car rebranded with Dacia’s body kit. The whole EV technology is Chinese, though. New one will be (supposedly) based on new Renault Twingo platform.
As for the tax: yes, there’s just that small registration fee specific to cars, but there’s also usual 21% VAT like on everything.
And that “upgrade” path? It is definitely not Denmark thing alone as we have it here too. Prices I listed are for the bare bones trims. Classic move is like this: Want something useful like parking cam? Pay up. And because manufacturers are pricks, it’s only available as a package with some other crap you don’t need nor want but still have to pay for…
Škoda revealed Epiq recently, which is I believe ID.Polo cousin. And it’s not cheap by far, for it’s size and specs. Basic trim starts at over $30k and that means things like gray color only, no parking cam, no keyless doors, no V2L, no heated seats, no wireless charger, etc. And also just basic 3 year warranty. Want better specs? You’re at price of Tesla Y… (Don’t want to bring its idiot owner here, just comparing cars offers.)
And my personal gripe of car industry: I absolutely hate every car review magazine/site/channel where they present new cars like “this new model costs just XY”, then proceed to show you nice car and at the very end they tell you it’s not the XY price base trim. It actually costs over twice as much, due to better trim, bigger battery and all the fancy options. Yeah, thank you and f*ck you with a cactus.
Why in the fuck can’t I purchase a non connected vehicle?
The main reason is safety; in many parts of the world, an automatic emergency call in case of an accident is mandatory. For this to be possible, the car needs to be connected. I know Russia, China, Japan, and the EU have these rules. I think it was mandatory in parts of the US as well, but I’m not sure.
I just want to point out that in order to call emergency services on mobile networks you don’t need a sim card nor a modem or writing telemetry on the nand so often and so much that it bricks the car within a few years
You can have a car make an emergency automated call without having the car company, their partners, and the government inserted 3 feet up your rectum tracking everything everywhere.
Who’s safety though? The car owner that chooses to not have this system? The other driver that can choose whether or not to have such a system? The inanimate infrastructure that was involved in the accident?
Slate Auto next year. Don’t get the telematics module.
Oh, but you can build yourself one.
/s
You can…until they come for the kits and older cars. It’s also expensive and takes a while, too.
Someone from around here built themselves an A Ford. Second best disconnection only to the original Mercedes. Took them a couple decades, though.
“A Ford”? A Model A you mean?
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The U.S. Department of Commerce’s Bureau of Industry and Security denied Polestar an authorization under the current Connected Vehicle Rule to sell cars in the U.S. from model year 2027 on. That’s because Polestar is a subsidiary of Geely, a Chinese automaker. Ironically, Polestar’s sister brand, also owned by Geely, Volvo, was granted the authorization in May.
What’s the Connected Vehicle Rule? From the Bureau of Industry and Security (is that a thing?):
On January 14, 2025, the U.S. Department of Commerce’s Bureau of Industry and Security (BIS) issued a rule restricting the import and sale of certain connected vehicles and related hardware/software linked to China or Russia. BIS determined these transactions pose national security risks, as companies from these countries may be compelled to share data or allow remote access to connected vehicles in the United States.
So, the reported ban seems capricious, but I wouldn’t mind one solution: stop making cars connected. The key fob uses its local protocol for lock/unlock and remote start, my phone uses bluetooth for charge controls and status, and there’s a scren that uses Android Auto. Car companies stop trying to write UX and network stacks.
Yea but then they couldn’t harvest and sell your data
also can be a pain, Toyota doesn’t have connected services, so you need to take your car into Toyota Australia for a recent recall software update, manufacturers with connected services just do an OTA update.
As an Australian I couldn’t give a shit about China spying on me, I do care if my own country spies on me. I own a BYD
In a competitive market we’d have both. I really appreciate what Tesla has been able to do with regular software updates, and that has been a compelling part of that vehicle. But I’m also tempted by Slates simplicity approach: no gadgets, no surveillance
TIL Volvo is a subsidiary of a Chinese company
Me looking at my 2023 Polestar 2 LRDM:
“It’s ok. They can’t hurt you. You parked next to a 240i and you felt superior remember?”
Buy a Polestar and change the badge. Twits who can’t explain the difference, will never know the difference.
Arbitrary actions are arbitrary.
I’m not terrified by that, just disgusted.
My guess is that the ulterior motive is to protect Tesla. Their competitors almost all offer better quality, and increasingly there are entrants to the market that produce those higher-quality vehicles at far lower cost. Musk seems unable or unwilling to take corrective actions, instead trying to buy the regulators.
It’s not arbitrary, as your second paragraph suggests there are other reasons. Someone didn’t pay off the administration. It really is like that.
almost all offer better quality
almost? LOL
Cant they just sell them as Volvos?
So the thesis of this piece is the government picking winners and losers in the auto industry through opaque mechanisms should terrify you because you should believe in total free market capitalism.
There’s plenty I don’t agree with regarding this administration’s trade or industrial policy. This reasoning though, ain’t it. It ain’t even new with this administration. I’m not getting the vapors over corrupt auto industry protectionism. And I’m certainly not concerned about whatever lib shit this guy is wound up about.
It’s because it’s not transparent and seems arbitrary, this isn’t mentioned but these are the perfect conditions for corruption or simple stupidity.
not transparent and seems arbitrary
Opaque regulatory inertia favoring established players could be the story of the American auto industry for the last century.
I’D be fine with that. Even with all the offshored parts and supply chain, the auto industry is still a huge part of the American economy, with a lot of related jobs. I want it to continue doing that
However excessive protectionism isn’t a viable strategy when there’s also a renewed commitment to obsolete technology and cancelling anything that would have encouraged change. I suppose this favors established industry in the short term but it really seems like forcing them to buy a shovel to dig their own graves.
The problem is if this is a payoff to musk, helping Tesla succeed at everyone else’s expense. Favoritism toward one specific person or company is never the right choice
Yes, there has absolutely been some crazy situations in the past.
this isn’t mentioned but these are the perfect conditions for corruption or simple stupidity
At this point, I think it’s safe to assume corruption and stupidity are the default, much to everyone’s chagrin.
They are the default, that’s why public services need transparency.
That’s not unique for USA, USA is just bad at doing these things right.
So the thesis of this piece is the government picking winners and losers in the auto industry through opaque mechanisms should terrify you because you should believe in total free market capitalism.
Those are not the only choices. For example, a rules-based and facts-based system of regulation is another possibility. But the current system’s rule appears to be that the spoils go to whoever got a slice of Trump’s goldfish-like attention, or wrote him a fat enough check.
And you might well get the vapors the next time one of the US automakers receives a massive government bailout because their having been protected from competition left them unable to compete in the global market, or possibly even in the time before that when US consumers are being forced to buy sub-mediocre products in order to fatten the bonuses of non-performing parasitic executives.
And it’s good to remember that free markets are a myth, and that real capitalists love anything that shelters them from having to compete, even if it’s protectionism.
Don’t mistake my lack of sympathy with the authors diagnosis with my actual diagnosis. Dude literally complains about government picking winners and losers as the main reason you should be terrified in conclusion. That’s a remarkably naive thing for an auto industry editor to write with a straight face, to the point that it breaks credulity. You should hate the entire system, not just Trump, is my conclusion.
But they want to make money off the days from the network. Think about the shareholders value!!
Its a rolling spy vehicle from China and Russia. Hard pass
Citation needed
Go one DV me PROVE ME WRONG.
Prove me wrong.
