Summary

Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) is pushing legislation to rename the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America, arguing the U.S. military and taxpayers secure the region, making it “our gulf.”

Greene shared the proposal text on social media, calling for federal agencies to adopt the name change.

She linked the renaming effort to combatting Mexican cartel activity in the Gulf.

Trump supported the name change in a 2024 executive order, but there has been no indication of international adoption, including by the UK.

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    We need to rename the Statue of Liberty to the Statue of America. In its current state it’s just woke propaganda with a sign actively promoting illegal immigration. It’s downright un-American.

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    Bets on whether or not she even knew where the Gulf of Mexico was this time last week?

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      As funny as that is, it’s actually someone that is going to set Trump up for undeserved success.

      When the shortage subsides, the egg prices will go down, even if nothing else does. He’ll gloat so much…

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        If bird flu is contained then the shortages will stop. Or we could defund everything, let it run wild until it jumps to humans, and make covid look like a wet fart. Which direction are we running in?

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      Soon! By immediately relaxing regulation and doing everything to make sure bird flu happens, eggs are about to get cheaper

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      It’s leveled out up here in Canada. There was actually a pretty dramatic new affordability section in the store when I was last in it.

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        It’ll go down in price once Canada stops sending their eggs to the US. Hoping electricity also goes down to when that’s cut

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      No, they have to focus on important stuff first. Like reassigning genders, renaming a body of water. You know, important things that actually help people.

        • scratsearcher 🔍🔮📊🎲@sopuli.xyz
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          Trump would need to blockade food and fuel shipments to the UK. Starvation and failing logistics would soon cripple the country, if no help from the EU arrived. Brexit?

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            1. Trade with the EU is still possible, it’s just much harder to do. Unless the PM is Truss levels of thick, he would make a deal with the EU.
            2. If the US tries to blockade the UK, that would be Article 5 worthy, hence, War with two nuclear powers.
            3. Even if we ignore that: Attacking shipping between the UK and the outside world would also include attacking friendly or neutral countries, including EU and NATO members, because the channel is one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world. Hence, bad idea for America.
            4. The Channel Tunnel (the Chunnel) allows for freight trains to pass between the UK and mainland Europe.

            In short: If the US tries to blockade supplies between the UK and the rest of the world, be it by Sea or Air or Rail, the US would still be at war with NATO and the EU, as well as many other countries (the countries of the ships that are attacked for example) because the UK doesn’t merely have a lot of allies, but they also get a lot of shit from the same routes the UK does.

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              You make good points in favor of the UK. Still from my viewpoint the US has some favorable cards and sits on a longer lever in the long term in the bilateral relation.

              1. Blockade could begin “soft” through tariffs and economic favors to other trading partners at first. Germany, Europe’s biggest economy, exports most of its goods to the United States, so the EU depends more on the relations to the US than the UK. Tightening that bottleneck to get concessions rather than cutting it off completely.
              2. And where would Britain get fuel from, 34% of UK fuel comes from the US according to oec trade balances? You need a lot of fuel reserves for a navy and air-force nowadays, not to mention to sustain a population. The U.S. is the biggest fossil fuel exporter in the world right now, and its growing into a petrol/oil-state.
              3. The US can offer France and Germany protection from China (because its military is capable and the best in the world) no tariffs and cheap fossil fuel to stay neutral. The US would need to split the EU and NATO into different factions infighting for this, which they already kinda did: Poland can not import the same level of chips as Germany from the US politico, while Orban supports Trump.
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                Right, so basically bully other surrounding countries into stopping things getting into the UK? You assume France and Germany are going to be gungho about blocking off their neighbour because the US is pissed off at them for not renaming a body of water that isn’t even theirs.

                I think you need to understand something:

                1. Tarrifs don’t work the way Donald Trump says they will. The Exporter doesn’t pay the tarrif, the consumer ultimately does, rising the price of imported goods. Trump also has the economic knowhow of a plank of wood because he also says he’s basically going to have tarrifs on everyone as a way to make other countries pay America money (in his head). Again, that’s wrong, and I don’t think he’s going to lift that on any EU country because in his eyes, other countries should pay America money either as a punishment or to pay for all the things the US does.
                2. We can get our oil from the Middle East or Canada if needs be. The US is not the only place with Oil.
                3. The biggest threat to France and Germany, or even Europe in general right now isn’t China, it’s Russia, because don’t forget there’s a War in Ukraine right now and Putin could, if he wanted to, send a force into Estonia or Finland and we could have nukes flying. We have Russian spies everywhere, Russian cyberattacks on infrastructure, fuck it wasn’t too long ago we had poisonings of Russian dissidents in England.

                Donald Trumps ideology on the international is basically “The Rest of the World Owes us, and we will make them pay”, and I don’t think Germany and France are going to suck America’s cock over Britain, especially since Trump is quite pally with Europe’s current big threat (Russia) and a certain member of his government is openly providing support for Far right parties in the UK, France and Germany.

                What I think would happen is that Trump slaps Tariffs on the UK and EU, tells them to bend the knee lest he raises them, and the UK, France, and Germany basically look at each other and say “aight, bet” and raise tarriffs on American made goods. I don’t think Germany and France are going to abandon the UK for a man who gets his money from Russia.

                Anyone with the capacity to google knows that Trump’s “Tariff-a-paloosa” scheme is going to blow up in America’s face as things get more expensive because, again: Importers pay the tariff, not the exporter. And if there’s one thing I know: You cannot make actual Scotch Whiskey, French Wine, or German Cars in the US.

                Also, another thing you can’t grow in a large scale in the US is Coffee! Only Hawa’ii can grow it and they can’t grow it on a scale that can satisfy the market in the Lower 48 and Alaska, so I guess watching the coffee supply to one of the most caffeinated countries in the world get cut off will be interesting to watch.

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    It’s soo dumb.

    The “Gulf of Mexico” was named before the country was officially named Mexico. The “Gulf of America” was historically a gulf in eastern Russia.

    Both Mexico and USA are part of North America, so I suppose the name makes sense, but why do the republicans think it’s a patriotic thing for them? Why is New York named after a town in England? Why don’t they rename it to… “America” and change the name of he state to “America”

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      Henceforth all cities, states, towns and rivers will be called America. The United Americas of America.

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    Why do we still let this woman talk? I can see the instant over night fame if someone smacked her in the mouth the moment she inhaled to say something stupid.

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      SHE IS A LAWMAKER

      I’m getting real fucking tired of these “why are we paying attention to this person?” comments… Dude, these people are deciding our future. Our lives are literally in their hands. That’s why I’m fucking paying attention.

      You think I want to have to follow this shit? It has probably taken years off my life.

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      The Gulf of America.

      If you think about it, it actually makes sense. We’d be staking a claim to something we have no right to and we’ve filled it with garbage and oil. We’ve done so much damage to it, that it’s barely recognizable compared to 100 years ago.

      It’s pretty much Water USA.

      If y’all have any other bodies of water you think should be named after us, go ahead and do it! A puddle with a dead bird in it, your toilet, your uncle’s piss-filled pants after he passed out from too many beers. USA! USA! USA!

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    The name “change” hasn’t even been adopted by the United States own government, because the president does not have that authority. Congress granted that authority to the US Board of Geographic Names in 1890. I suppose Congress could rename it if they passed a bill that the president signed into law overriding that authority for that specific case, but until they did so, it’s not official.

    Here is the link to the US Geographic Names Information system page showing the current official name of the Gulf of Mexico: https://edits.nationalmap.gov/apps/gaz-domestic/public/search/names/558730. Note the list of accepted variant names, which still doesn’t include “Gulf of America”.

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    How about this MTG. The section of Georgia that touches the Gulf of Mexico can be renamed to the Gulf of America.

    Oh wait your state doesn’t even fuckin touch the Gulf of MEXICO.

    Jokes aside I am curious which country has more land along the Gulf. Not because I want to rename it, but eyeballing it on maps I really can’t tell.

    Would you measure it to the “mouth” like I did in the picture? How are Gulfs defined? I need a cartographer to chime in.