Elon Musk has said an Axios report that the Department of Justice and Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) had concluded there was no evidence of a Jeffrey Epstein client list was the “final straw”.

The report also said the agencies had concluded there was no credible evidence the disgraced financier and pedophile blackmailed high-profile and prominent individuals, and confirmed that surveillance footage showed Epstein had killed himself in prison.

“So… umm… then what is Ghislaine Maxwell in prison for?” Musk posted to his X platform, referring to Epstein’s former girlfriend and associate who procured underage girls for him to abuse.

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    Musk framed himself as a champion of good fighting the forces of evil, but then he retreated when Tesla stocks went down. Democrats are destroying the country, society is being perverted, etc. But that’s nothing compared to his wallet. (His words.)

    Musk says he’s aware of a massive pedophilia conspiracy involving presidents, billionaires, and royalty. Then he backs out when Trump threatens SpaceX contracts.

    He wants to bring mankind to the stars and create a free society on Mars. But then someone will threaten his bottom line and that will be the end.

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    c’mon do it, you jilted sycophantic cuck. you were born to engage in political corruption, get burned by people better at it than you, than lash out at them in a tantrum fueled by your delusions of having conflicted morals. just do it

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    Bullshit.

    This is all hoked-up drama to distract the masses while they push us into working poverty.

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      Agent Krasnov and whatever KGB names Elon and his father have been given would agree.

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      I wonder where they’re all flying these days. Who’s keeping the current list? How many years from now does someone come forward to tell the same story

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        I’d love for the holder of such blackmail material to be at the end of their lives and go full ‘fuck them al’-mode and just spill the beans

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          And nothing would happen, again. They own the media and can buy the judges for what equates to pennies for them. If we want penalties, we need guillotines.

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        It’s a ridiculous thing to imagine that only the US possesses intel about Epstein. I’m sure a foreign government will leak more about Trump’s involvement with Epstein. Virginia Giuffre named Trump in addition to others and she recently “committed suicide.”

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          I’m sure a foreign government will leak more about Trump’s involvement with Epstein.

          So?

          Imagine the entire UN (bar the US) put their stamp of approval on video evidence. What difference would it make?

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          Why haven’t they leaked or better yet prosecuted based off of this information they have?

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            Because is probably Israel, and the US and other western powers are doing exactly what Israel wants them to do.

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              This should not be downcourt.

              All available evidence is pointing to Epstein being an intelligence operation run by Mossad.

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          What would be the point? It won’t change US politics and it will just incriminate “allies” like prince andy et al.

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    As a Republican this Leaves me ANGRY because I THOUGHT the CLINTONS were on that List but if Trump, who was Epstein’s Best Friend, says there is No List then that means the CLINTONS never Raped kids either!

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      Honestly I think it’s kind of funny the administration is trying to bury this, because there is already very public information on Trump being a rapist and making creepy remarks towards young girls.

      If it releases with him on it his supporters would absolutely do the mental gymnastics required to use it as proof the liberal elite are an evil cabal, while also insisting that dear leader is blameless.

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        Really wouldn’t be that hard, they could point to several passages in the Bible that could justify him being a rapist and paedophile because they took it wildly out of context. IIRC Mary was something like 13 when she’s was betrothed to Joseph.

        The Bible contradicts a lot about how these guys handle stuff while invoking it, but that’s one area where, because of the times in which it’s referencing, there are examples that fit their narrative. Honestly I’m surprised they haven’t used that already, but it’s probably because none of them have actually read it.

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        an evil cabal

        There’s that word, which Marjorie TG mispronounced as cable in a Qanon promotional video years ago. Fucking dumbass.

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        They would do mental gymnastics to wave off dear leader fucking little girls, yes.

        Would they forgive him for fucking little boys though?

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    No one ever asks why Epstein was allowed to kill himself. Who gave the order to take him off suicide watch? I remember people at the time screaming that it was a bad idea.

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      Nobody ever asks “are suicides not common?” Nobody ever asks “are US prisons run correctly?”

      We average like 50 suicides a year in federal prisons. Despite being under watch, suicides are greater in prison populations than in the general population.

      US prisons are not run correctly. People are not taken care of, or kept from hurting themselves and others, and there’s negligence and abuse and more.

      Why is Epstein killing himself in federal prison weird? That’s literally a trait of conspiracy nuts: they never allow small things to be responsible for big outcomes.

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      That would be Bill Barr. Look into it yourself but Bill probably had Epstein killed, he’s the guy who knows what happened.

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      I think the onus ultimately falls upon the head of the DOJ at the time (Barr, if I recall correctly), who was appointed by trump, and at the time loyal to him.

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          He continued his lifestyle while he was still in jail.

          He only had to spend nights at the jail and he still had women visit him constantly. No one knew what they were doing because the guards were not allowed to guard him.

          Epstein was also allowed out of the stockade for up to 12 hours a day, six days a week on work-release after agreeing to pay off-duty deputies to guard him at his office at 250 Australian Ave. On workdays, Epstein’s driver picked him up at the stockade and drove him several miles to his office — just steps away from Goldberger’s office — at a nonprofit he founded seven months before he pleaded guilty.

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            To be clear, that was in 2008 when he was serving time in Florida. The situation in 2019 in NYC was very different.

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              Yes. He has been in jail more than once.

              To be clear, again, why didn’t he suicide himself the first time he was in jail?

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        I didn’t hear too much about the first time. I don’t remember it. I know he was on suicide watch. Then he suddenly wasn’t with every medical professional saying he needed to stay on suicide watch. Was he on suicide watch the first time?

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        I suspect because they didn’t have all his video files. Couldn’t kill him if those files could get leaked after his death.

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    The title of that article should be “Elon Musk Gets His Name In Print Again”

    Because there’s nothing there, really. I’m reading an old book (“old” meaning twenty years which is not old but- ) it has used Newsweek as a source of truth several times. Because there was a time it was considered to be so.

    It is not now. Whoever owns it is playing a bad game of chicken with journalism.

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        Oh the list exists, of course. I’m not saying they’re making up things necessarily - just that they’re making “news articles” out of tweets and other low-effort so-called-journalism which wasn’t really the case a long time ago.

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          No need to single out Newsweek, then, as basically all publications opted for this sort of cheap content to inflate their pages…

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            Newsweek, given it’s history and the crass purchasing of the branding is especially egregious.

            business insider, for example, can do what it wants and yeah it’s just regular terrible.

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      If they report on the old things: “this isn’t new news! Stupid media”

      If they don’t, “ugh 24 hour news cycle, they report on it once then forget about it. Stupid media.”

      I’m giving this one a pass if it keeps the files in the limelight and/or pisses off Trump.

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        Yes it serves our purposes, sure. It has nothing to do with whether or not the news is “old” or “new”. At least not for me. For the mods of c/news perhaps.

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    there is zero reason for anyone to believe Epstein killed himself even if we are given direct evidence from the state itself. everything from them is suspect and should not be trusted regardless of the quality provided. why would anyone listen to the words of a government that inherently distrusts its citizens and wants, objectively, the worst for them? even if Epstein actually did kill himself we are never going to accept that as a society and honestly, we shouldn’t, because this is absolutely something those in power would do and we should never forget that or become complacent to it.

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      There is zero reason to even think this when the far more obvious “conspiracy” is that he was deliberately allowed the time, means, and lack of supervision to do so. A man that has lost everything and will spend eternity in prison as a paedo supplier of underage girls to the rich and powerful has plenty of motivation to kill himself.

      This site is just as ridiculous as the antivaxxers making shit up without evidence when in this case especially the “opportunity” conspiracy is wildly more likely vs someone physically going in and murdering the man. All they had to do was do virtually nothing instead of plotting a murder and hiding it.

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    Honestly occam’s razor says that there is likely no amazing smoking gun detailing all these people and all the terrible things they did like the right (and beyond but hear me out) has been claiming without evidence for years, but rather there are probably just some travel logs that hint or imply if you squint hard enough and aren’t really that interesting or damning on their own. So now the conspiracy theorists control the White House and with it the flow of information, they have the opportunity to release the information they swear exists, and yet the conspiracy doesn’t work anymore because they can’t claim “the powers that be” are protecting anyone without attacking Trump now.

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      The beflief is that Epstein collected and kept evidence that he could use to blackmail his wealthy and powerful clients, either on behalf of an intelligence agency which he had claimed to have ties to, or just to protect himself and gain personal influence and power.

      This isn’t a right wing conspiracy, it cuts across the US political spectrum

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        I know what the conspiracy is, and I’m bringing up the right specifically (and I made sure to preface that I was doing that and that this conspiracy extends beyond them but I guess you missed it) because the far right currently controls the government and a lot of the right wing political grift hinges on things like “Trump is going to release the truth about Epstein and all the people who were part of his network.”

        When Biden was president and the democrats controlled the senate, the right screeched for years that Biden and his administration were protecting the pedophiles. Now they have control, and nothing has changed. They can’t explain it without attacking Trump. Which they’ll never do directly because 1) he’s critical to their income and 2) look how well that’s gone for Musk

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      but rather there are probably just some travel logs that hint or imply if you squint hard enough and aren’t really that interesting or damning on their own

      Right. They had videos from Diddy and couldn’t take him down beyond the smaller charges. People seem to forget you need proof beyond a reasonable doubt for a criminal conviction.