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One of my favorite modern day quotes recently has been:
“People really do be using their free will out here.”
This is a lie.
Looking to bulk order “pedestrian zone” and “cycles only” signs some time soon 👀
I have on numerous occasions considered ordering bike route signage to place up on bike safe routes. The city has official signs for it but puts basically none up. If I could just order a lot more to put up it could encourage more folks to join.
My great grandma had a similar story, the bus stop was in front of my grandparent’s bedroom, they hated that people would gather in their bedroom window. she asked for the stop to be moved a few meters down the road, so it is between the houses and not in front of it. the municipality denied her.
Until that point the bus stop was nothing but a sign, she heard that they were going to remove it and install a proper bus stop with a bench and shade.
She asked the city build it a few meters down, still nothing.
the night before they began construction, my great grandma just moved the sign to where she wanted it. they built the bus stop where the sign was, and today, that bus stop is still where she wanted it to. Possibly until perpetuity
Possibility: They know it’s in the wrong spot. They don’t know why. So they figure someone screwed up, they don’t know who, but they don’t want it to be them or their department. So nobody says anything, and the stop remains unchanged.
Yeah screw the public, she deserves her view
How’s the public screwed in this?
We have no knowledge of why it was there in the first place, we’re only given one side of the story. Maybe this was closer to a crosswalk, or nextdoor was less safe. We don’t even know if the stop existed there before she moved in. We don’t know. All we know is old lady didn’t like view of people outside her window and decided that instead of dealing with it she had to change it herself.
or maybe the city council couldn’t be bothered to move the sign a few meters to the left, and the fact that the construction still went through and nobody complained or pointed out any possible problems means that it was a non-issue
you are free to give it the worst possible reading. it is a story I heard from family of events that happened maybe 70 years ago. the stakes couldn’t be lower. unless you figure which municipality and bus stop were talking about, then you can complain and have the bus stop reinstated in front of the bedroom I might inherit someday
I’m forced to give it the worst possible reading because we don’t have the other side. Personally, I read this as some HOA type who can’t be bothered to have a few people milling around while waiting for the bus.
For context I got a picture of the place in google maps. and discovered that said bus station is no longer there at all, but I have marked were the bedroom is, the original location (straight in front of their window. and the exchanged location, no one was inconvenienced by that change. and albeit it was a minor inconvenience for my great grandparents, the fix was trivial.
To me, that’s even less of a reason. They could still see in, she could still see them, I side with the city still. What was the point of moving it except wasting taxpayer money?
I know that street, the bus is like 10 meters away from it’s original location. it inconveniences literally no one.
you suck
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
Flock is watching.
Flock is getting kicked out of towns left and right.
Are people really praising this? I guess fuck the engineers who did a traffic study, and fuck the school children walking in that area from 7-7:30 I guess.
Did you just invent a school zone to make an argument? What would the hypothetical civil engineers have to say after running countless hours of simulations on imagined children?
Or, hear me out, maybe the sign was just wrong. If they haven’t catch up in almost a year that was probably the case.
Just because a traffic engineer has qualifications doesn’t necessarily guarantee they’re not an asshole who is wrong and also sucks.
to be fair on traffic engineers timing lights we have verifiable proof that sometimes adding roads can actually increase taffic (and that removing them can decrease it) And this information is not always taken into account on a high level so they get stuck trying to fix an innately flawed system.
Title text is great
Won’t someone please think of the children 😭
We have a road that goes under a bridge so that you can make a right to go east on a 4 lane road. People would sit at that corner waiting to go left and it caused massive backups. (Which made no sense, why go under the bridge then? Use a different corner and make a right to go west!). We asked the city to make it right turn only - they interpreted it slightly differently and thought we meant people were heading straight the wrong way up a one way, rather than turning to that corner, came and put a temporary sign. I went with one of my kids, wearing safety vests, and moved the temporary sign to the corner we wanted it at.
Later the city came and put the permanent sign where we had it, and ALSO changed the paint on the road to make it one way right at the corner and disallowed left turns INTO that corner, they just broadly said no left. Which is good. Nobody should be stopping at the bottom of a bridge to wait to make a left turn.
It’s not like NOBODY does the left anymore, but there are not backups now because nobody is going to sit there waiting to go left, they get honked at.
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I wonder what problem the original sign addressed. Because forbidding turning right for 2 ½ hours every morning sounds extremely specific, and sounds like one neighbor in particular had some beef with another or something, and got the city to put up the sign.
And maybe that neighbor left, or whichever problem was being addressed didn’t exist anymore.
I know that’s a thing because a long time ago, we had a “15mph - blind children at play” sign in our street, until someone pointed out that the blind child in question was now an adult and had moved out years ago, and the sign was just annoying everybody for nothing 🙂
In other words, the guy might have replaced a useless sign with another, equally useless one on his own dime. Maybe he could simply have called the city to wonder what the sign was for, and possibly have it reviewed and removed altogether.
It prevents backup. If the light goes from green to red on a major road, then arterial traffic stops (just like it is supposed to). Now, a crossroad dumps in a new batch of cars that backfill the next block. When the arterial light turns green, those cars now have nowhere to go. It’s not too long before you have cars blocking part of the intersection between light cycles out of frustration. Or, at least that is the case near where I live.
Maybe he caused a 50-car pileup and killed hundreds of puppies.
7-9:30a Definitely speaks to it being rush-hour specific.
How can it be rush hour when it’s two and a half hours long?
It covered Rush Hour and a portion of Rush Hour 2. Not 3, because the city is no fun.
Perhaps that’s done in the afternoon but OOP didn’t mention it because it wasn’t relelvant?
Maybe it wasn’t obvious, but I was referring to the runtime of the Javkie Chan movies.
Because the busy period in the morning and evening are more than 1 hour long about everywhere with people having differing work schedules that all begin and end within similar but not exact time frame?
You are asking a question, but it sounds like you are stating a fact. I don’t know how to make sense of anything anymore?
Likely a school zone. Most of these signs are because there are children crossing the street and they don’t want them to get hit by cars.
But my commute! You don’t understand it’s so long if I don’t put school children at risk!
There’s a sign by my house, on a road I need to turn right on at about 420 every day, that says no right-on-red turns between 730am to 430pm on school days.
It’s frustrating, because it doesn’t seem like it’s actually protecting children for 9 hours a day
Sounds like you should find a fun 10-minute activity to start at 4:20.
Given the original sign covered 7-9.30am seems like it’s to prevent people cutting across traffic during peak commuting time either to prevent accidents or improve the flow of traffic.
There is a sign like this at the end of my street. It’s morning and evening rush times. The turn in question is an offset intersection through a busy road. If you are to take a left off my street you can easily be hit by someone taking a right from the street across into the middle of the road to then take a left from the perpendicular road onto my street. The city put some surveyors out there for a bit and with the accident data and all that determined my street can’t make our left at certain times but the street across can snake their way across town just fine. The 2 streets on either side of mine are just fine to left turn from, they don’t have the offset intersection. Nobody gets pulled over for the turn either but I’m sure if you caused an accident you would get an extra citation.
Also, kids on their way to school
Yeah true. But I reckon it was worth asking.
Also, sometimes, all it takes is asking a carve-out to make your life easier.
For instance, he could have asked the city to add an “except residents” sign under the existing one. At least where I live, you’d be surprised how accommodating the administration can be if you simply ask nicely with a good argument.
Hell, he could have added the sign himself for cheaper and I bet none of the other residents would have complained about it 🙂
Realllly depends on the city. Some places won’t even reply to you for months, and when they do it’ll be a bullshit answer because you’re not of the developers bribing them with millions of dollars…
It’s to try and prevent people from cutting through a neighborhood during rush hour. Common in more gridded cities.
Yes; also, I’ve seen it in more suburban areas, too, near a school as a way to protect the children from cars.
If you bring it up, then it could end up in some bureaucratic limbo where nothing ever gets done. And then afterwards if you go to change it yourself they’ll figure it was you. So maybe easier just to change it yourself in the first place?
School kids probably
His sign wasn’t useless, the new one was about 20% less useless.
Hissjgn
Seriously, do people just hit “save” or “post” without even glancing at what they wrote?
No tmie!
Now you’re making me self-conscious about my ninja edit rates.
I had one of those by my house, not in the residential area.
Morning turners would back up the lane into another light, so the sign was just to cover up for bad traffic design
Guy did this in LA, correctly noting a lane on the 110 that goes to the 5 North.
Thank you, it was the first thing I thought and was about to go search for it
This is done in a number of overpasses on the DC beltway and “mixing bowl”
A road may go North while the other direction goes East and the signs will point that out but the road might actually be labeled South for a bit despite the sign saying East.
So folks have rappelled off the overpasses and painted EAST and an arrow or NORTH and an arrow in places like this.
And everyone clapped.
Diabolical
My friends and I stole a speed limit sign over a decade ago and they still haven’t replaced it.
They did replace the one on the other side of the road about 4 years ago.
20 years ago, our town had a war over an intersection.
Someone decided to upgrade a 3 way intersection, for a a dirt road going into the woods off a main artery. (rumored someone in town planning bought a house on that road and was trying to make it so they didnt have to wait a long time for a gap in traffic)
So they made it a 3 way stop unsteady of just the dirt road having a stop sign. This caused tragic to back up miles on either side, as it was pretty much the only stop on the main road going out to the town’s comercial district (100s of work vehicles traveling it at 9 and 5)
Almost immediatley, People started coming out with chain saws, and wpuld cut down the 4x4 wood signpost. Leaving the stump and the concrete block in the ground. Fairly quickly, the town ran out of room on the narrow strip between the road and the bike path, and started hammering in metal posts, wedged between the buried cement supports.
Guys with welders on their trucks started cutting those down flush with the ground. At one point, a cop car was stationed there overnight.
The police report detailed 2 trucks, with chain strung between them, driving on either side of the post at speed, wrapping the sign, and tearing it out of the ground before dropping the chain.
Thst was about as far as it got before town meeting, where an inquest was called for into the appropriateness , and approval process, and who had put in the work order etc. (There was some passage about the planning board being able to make minor changes to signage, etc without impact studies, and going through the approval process (which includes open forum, and with enough detractors to a project can force it to be put to a vote)
The main point of contention being how anyone qualified to be in that position could think that something that caused a 30-60 minute delay on a 5 mile road qualified as a ‘minor change’
Iirc the whole thing ended with the town cementing over that little strip (covering over all the metal and wood protrusions, and effectively signaling a stop sign couldn’t be put there anymore) and then several members of the planing commision, resigning their posts, which made the inquest moot.
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posts details on the internet
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“Oh shit, InfiniteRespect4757 just confessed to a crim on the Internet from years ago. We finally got em boys!”
In all fairness, he’s discussing stuff he’d done 13 years prior.
And without enough info to point to a specific intersection.
Definitely past the statute of limitations.
