Jeez, first the reprisal of the bear comparison with a hilarious amount of dudes feeling still it is a bad comparison because bears are so so much more dangerous, now this, what is going on with Lemmy?
I see more people speaking out against the comic than for. Just a lot of the same people repeating the for side.
Now all together: Feeling bad and being sad are things you do not compete at
So… Why is this one getting reposted?
Eh even if you want to bring your own emotional problems into a discussion like this, probably a better way is to go along the lines of “I understand how you feel, I often feel that way too. I find [this method] to be very helpful when dealing with it.” bla bla, rather than turning it into a piss contest (or contunuing it if it started off like that).
Also I feel like this comic tries to speak in place of all men. I might be wrong but if indeed so, I don’t feel like that all the time. Sure I do feel like that sometimes but definitely not even every month. I got my other problems, I am not problem free, but this is not it. So if this man feels like that all the time, he should probably try to have an open hearted discussion about it with someone who can understand rather than get angry about it. And if the other person makes fun of him for that, maybe he should consider his ties with that person because there are definitely people who are more understanding.
I can’t guarantee it, but I’d guess the girl is talking about their period. I don’t think that him giving advice is helpful in this context and from your comment it seems like maybe that wasn’t how you understood the comic. Just adding that because it seems like your comment has a good intent but might not relate to how some people interpret the comic.
Yea I also thought of the woman talking about her period. Obviously it is impossible for the man to feel sympathy to all aspects of physical and emotional discomfort felt during a period but I was focusing mostly on the psychological aspects in isolation from all the other aspects.
*tips fedora*
Man can’t even explain why he understands her pain without shitheads like you mocking them. He never said her pain was lesser, he was explaining his own pain, grow some empathy
Edit:actually I’m not fucking done. This is why men suffer in silence, this is why we avoid therapy our problems are mocked, emotional trauma and mental illness are character flaws instead of something to be treated when men have them
It’s an unfunny edgelord comic. I get the point, it’s just not funny.
Just like man/bear, the difference is this one can be interpreted as pro-men in its sentiment which tends to shake the tree, making examples of the Empathy Gap fall out
He says that he feels like this all the time, while she only feels like that five days a month. Sure, he is not saying that her pain is lesser, but he is saying that he is suffering more. And that is what (most) people here mock. That this comic suggests that men suffer more than women. That responding to someone explaining their pain with “actually, I suffer like that all the time” is childish behavior. This isn’t about men sharing their pain, it’s about the one-upping what she is saying.
You wouldn’t say this if it were reversed and you know it, this entire thread is a screaming example of the empathy gap towards men
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Woman: I am experiencing pain.
Power: Bah, you’re just complaining because you’re a woman.
Man: I too am experiencing pain.
Power: Bah, you’re just complaining because you’re a woman.
Transwoman: I too am experiencing pain. Hunh… Maybe I am a woman.
Power: Nope, you’re just complaining because you’re a wom-, uh… man…? Er, wait… how do we patronize you? What the…?
Transman: I also –
Power: Stop! Just… Stop thinking and feed the machine that makes us powerful, damn it! Fuck’s sake, this was so much simpler when we could just claim divine right.
Yeah no that has nothing to do with the comic
The comic is seemingly intentionally ambiguous as an attempt to provoke consideration.
Definitely filters sexists out that’s for sure
I feel like if this was a specific character going “wait that’s not normal lol” the joke would land better. But as it is the only frame of reference we have is one representing women and one representing men.
And it just all falls flat because women can have mental illnesses too? And yes men are forced to repress it more often but women often have their physical or mental health dismissed or ignored so it’s not much better either way.
I’m trans so I’ll never face a period but I can’t imagine the agony of going through one in addition to a mental health crisis or other sickness. And it’s not like women get “period days off” of work or school so you’re just expected to push through it.
I’m grateful you will never have to deal with it, it makes me a little jealous. If you ever want to imagine what bad cramps feel like, imagine a power drill plunged into your belly, whirring at full speed. 😭
Why are you all bitching women aren’t even real
If I roll 80 times on the latest gacha, I can pretend they’re real, and then they’ll immediately beg for my self-insert character to date them.
Just like birds
That’s why the brits call them that.
Misogynistic drivel.
Woman: I’m suffering
Man: I have it worse!
Shut the fuck up and listen. If someone says they’re suffering you pay attention to their problems not make it a contest.
You do undermine your own point a bit by trivializing men’s suffering in the same breath as demanding nobody trivialize suffering.
The comic is bullshit for sure but you did exactly the same thing it did.
He ignored her suffering and diminished it saying that for 5 days a month she feels what he deals with every day. He’s ignoring her point and one-upping her. That’s toxic behaviour that doesn’t help anything.
That he is also suffering is a separate conversation that also needs to take place but that’s a different conversation. The first step is resolving conflict is by listening to the other person’s point of view, not dismissing it as less important.
… it is that “toxic” mental health that the author is trying to emphasize needs to be met.
both issues are valid. but shorthair‘s mental health problem is what’s being highlighted.
It’s precisely shorthair’s dismissal that needs to be intervened.
there maybe some underlying ASPD that needs to be resolved.
Unless they are a man, of course, then they should just get a therapist.
Also OP is a new account with only posts and no comments. Lots of red flags.
Did you consider that the comic is making fun of misogynists?
I had not considered that, so thanks for pointing that out. Upon checking the comic more closely, I don’t get any hint that it’s making fun of misogynists, but it’s certainly possible.
If so, it’s shockingly ineptly done though
Then explain OP’s title.
It’s a meme.
Longhair: explains problem they insist short-haired can’t understand
Short hair: explains he does and why, revealing deep emotional damage underneath
You: MY SOGGY KNEEEEES!
It’s about depression you git. Does he have “all men” tattooed on his fucking forehead? It’s one dude. You sound extremely hypocritical
This is how I interpreted it as well. He understands because depression makes him feel that way all the time.
So you’re just ignoring the part where the woman says that the man doesn’t understand? That’s the whole reason why he says how he feels. He’s not just saying that to undermine her struggle. He’s explaining why he thinks he understands her better than she thinks.
Why would we listen, you just did the opposite. No empathy for those who don’t show any.
What the person you replied to is correct regardless of the genders involved. When someone brings up a problem to you, it’s a rude thing to immediately respond in ways that make it about you and your own pain. There’s a line between sharing your own experiences to establish understanding and empathy and making it the pain Olympics.
Especially in this comic, the man couldn’t possibly understand how it feels to have the unfortunate symptoms that come from having periods, and he instantly equates putting up with his partner during their period as equivalent. It’s eye rolling on multiple levels.
You’re a misandrist and deserve to die like the rest of your subhuman caste.
Oh my, I think you need to talk to someone. If I suggest therapy, should I die twice?
Heheh, I’ve been checking out your comment history and you’re on quite the crusade! I don’t know if I agree with everything you say, but I can get behind the determined fury. I can be like that too, and I’m not gonna downvote anyone else for doing the same, because this place does get a bit kumbaya and dissent-averse at times, and I think it’s fair to call shit out.
That’s all.
He never made it about him. You made it about him. Where did he equate it to putting up with her? He didn’t, you did. He only explained how he could in fact understand her pain. You are saying he can never express his pain, he can only agree with her, pure bigotry
I never said he couldn’t express his pain. I said, regardless of genders, this way of expressing it is simply rude and not a good way to communicate in any kind of relationship. When someone brings up something that is bothering them, and your immediate response is “yeah, but me”, you’re being a jerk. Since this seems to be escaping you, this doesn’t mean the other person isn’t allowed to talk about their feelings. They simply need to be an adult and do it at a more appropriate time or in a more appropriate way. Conversations like this aren’t a battle to be won, they are a tool used to solve a problem or simply vent frustration.
You seem to be looking at this in a very black and white way. Therapy can help with that. It’s not a fun way to go through life.
Conversely, empath the fuck up and don’t push your problems on someone who also has them. Both struggles, as minor as they could be, are valid.
Men will literally menstruate 24/7 instead of going to therapy
Fake news we also have 40k lore
Dude. No need to call us out like that.
In America therapy costs a lot of money and you get no guarantee you’ll see someone competent.
Very true and I speak from experience. Still worth it to try, if you need help. I did eventually find one that helped me a lot.
So is the answer to give up or keep trying?
yes, because I will be extra sad if I cant afford rent.
The answer is to fight for a healthcare system that covers all health (including mental) instead of trying to be the most effective funnel of money from the poor into the coffers of the rich.
Sadly, the people who are most lacking in mental health support are largely the ones who actively fight against such a structure (because propaganda works).
Tell me how we do that exactly? Just keep voting and hope that some kind of policy goes through and hopefully before you finally blow your brains out?
You seem to think that box #2 is the last hope. I’m not ready to give up on that one yet. But if things get so bad that the ballot box truly doesn’t matter any more, we still have two more to defend liberty with. I hope we never again need the fourth box.
Throwing your hands in the air and saying “it’s too rigged, there’s no hope” is exactly what the opps want.
I am not giving up. But just shrugging and say ‘go see a therapist’ is useless.
A lot of people really don’t get it.
Therapists cost around $100hr where I’m at. It’s the height of privilege and tone deafness to just toss out “get therapy” at every depressed fucker out there. The same people screaming for empathy seem to lack their own.
Men will literally
menstruatefap 24/7 instead of going to therapyIf anyone is mentruating 24/7, I would suggest the hospital.
Men will literally masturbate 24/7 instead of going to therapy
ftfy lol
OK, why do you think they need to masturbate 24/7 in the first place?
I mean…. have you tried it?
It’s pretty great!
You’re not doing anything by saying “go to therapy.” If you really cared, pay for someone’s therapy.
Lemmy: MISOGYNY!
Meanwhile, me, a dumdum: Damn the author has experienced critically low self-esteem…or the joke is as fun as a rock in the field.
Like, either it’s self-depreciating/edgy humor or it’s not humor at all lol.
I immediately understood it to be a description of severe depression. If a neurotypical person suddenly experiences a low from a period similar to a depressed person’s average day, why is it suddenly misogyny?
Because the depressed person is a man, there are many people who still treat mental illness and emotional trauma as character flaws, but only when men have them, otherwise it’s all about listening and believing. Tl;dr: sexism against men is far more rampant and casually accepted than people think
The patriarchy hurts both sides
I’d be more willing to listen if y’all didnt insist on naming your ideological evil after men then wondering why so many are skeptical everything you say, it demonizes half the population.
I’ve noticed that I cannot see images hosted on lemmy.zip unless I visit it manually, what could be causing this?
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Yeah, but I enabled cookies for lemmy.zip then solved the captcha and images from there still don’t show up.
That won’t help if your browser is set up to not allow websites to access third-party cookies.
I have a similar problem but different instances or file types and I also don’t understand.
some block my vpn, others don’t block it outright but i have to solve a captcha first via cloudflare
Huh, I didn’t know about this. I have no clue what could be the issue, although the captcha theory sounds reasonable. I’m sure the lemmy.zip admins would appreciate it if you let them know about this issue (unless they already do know about it (: )
what
Yuck. Lemmy has a misogynistic streak and this bullshit doesn’t help. The account is less than a day old and I’m wondering if I should block it now or wait and see what else they post…
Edit: there’s no joke here. He’s saying that men experience an amount of stress equivalent to menstruation on a daily basis. And that is staggeringly pathetic. Women deal with this pain and discomfort one week a month and still manage to live fulfilling lives. Men don’t have that the added physical burden and still can’t achieve emotional regulation and fulfillment?
Who’s the weaker sex again?
You are the weaker sex if you’ve twisted SEVERE LIFE ALTERING DEPRESSION as competition, grow some empathy you sexist trash
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I find it interesting that your position is that mens lives are free from repeated stresses. Yes women have menstruation but you seem to be implying that that is the only reason for someone to be emotionally unregulated. Maybe men are just literally emotionally unstable by default. If there is a genetic predisposition for emotional dysfunction are men still evil for not being able to control their emotions? Do we know everything there is to know about the human mind or physiology? Because I don’t believe we do. It is certainly interesting that there is such a mountain of evidence that men cannot control their emotions in the same manner as women but the response is always and only “suck it up” and “it’s societies fault” and never “perhaps there is a deeper reason.”
Additionally and more on topic, the comics talking about one dude personal experience. Why have you generalized it into being descriptive of all men. Sounds like misandry.
you’re right, I haven’t experienced menstruation. however, your comment makes me feel like shit and makes me irritable.
He’s not saying anything about men generally, YOU are.
The man in this comic is talking about himself, not men. Do you think it’s not possible for a man to feel the level of stress a woman feels from her period, as his baseline due to mental health issues? If I’m a severely distressed or depressed man, there’s not a world where my daily average is on par or worse than a woman on her period?
Can you put your own lived experience on any higher of a pedestal over others?
lol
Anyone defending this “comic” looks like a lunatic. I can’t take anything you say seriously.
If thinking men can have mental health issues on par with menstrual stress makes me a lunatic, then I guess that I am a lunatic sweetie 🤘🥰
this is fuckin dumb
Basically the bear/man post
