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    Remember when he told people to get over it the day after a school shooting?

    But protestors getting murdered I by his this is when he calls for removing guns… From the protestors.

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    This is definitely a feeler. As soon as the blowback hits he’ll change topic and prevent like he never said it. Of course MAGA will forget it too

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      Weirdly, I don’t think it’s just a feeler. I think this is something Trump actually believes. I mean, the man is in New York billionaire, he’s not from American gun culture. Pretty frequently when there’s a shooting or gun-related tragedy he talks about taking guns away from people.

      You’re right that TACO is probably going to TACO and not do anything about it.

      On the other hand, this administration has been very clear that First Amendment rights don’t apply to their political enemies, and there’s no reason they’d feel differently about the Second.

      I can easily see gun rights going the way of small government ideology in general - a useful tool when liberals were in power, but counterproductive now that conservatives are running things. There’s no right to bear arms against a conservative government, only against a liberal one.

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      At this point it is just to aggravate the left side and direct attention away from the main issue, which is ICE murdering people. MAGA at this point only cares that they remain in power and they dismantle the liberal state. Everything else is chatter.

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    First he switched the right to pro-tariffs…

    Then he switched the right to not-anti-pedophile…

    Now switching it to pro-gun-control

    Look, can he just hurry the fuck up and get MAGA to support socialism already? I don’t feel like waiting this long

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      I want to agree, but knowing Trump it would be a national flavor of socialism :/

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    He really is trying to make enemies of everyone heh. Those guys get mad enough, he may yet find himself perforated

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    So let’s see, no Epstein Files, America First is out the window, prices keep rising, and now we’re going to restrict the 2nd Amendment.

    What exactly is MAGA in for now? The voracious Corruption? The virtuosic incompetence? The Pedophilia? Death Squads spontaneously forming firing squads and executing American citizens in the streets?

    Does this look like the kind of freedom you were voting for?

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    Oh NOW it’s a conversation they’re willing to have. Not after 20 years of school shootings.

    Fucking hypocrite cunts.

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      Nobody is having that conversation because of a comment Trump made. Literally no change to gun rights is being proposed or even suggested. People are drawing unfounded policy conclusions from nothing.

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      The NRA and gun rights groups have condemned Trump’s rhetoric.

      Seems like it’s just the UltraMAGA typical bootlickers that are rolling over for Trump.

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    Now I really wonder how maga will react… This is one of their core beliefs and either cheeto goes full “rules for thee but not for mer” for the white christians, or he might literally find himself without a base at all

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      Maga core beliefs go out the window the minute trump says something different. Remember how they were against miltary intervention in foreign countries, especially in the middle east? Well now they’re gung-ho for it. They’re singing that Barbara Ann/bomnb Iran song on the conservative forums right now. There’s a little grumbling from a few of them about trump and minions saying you can’t take your guns to protests, but most are already rationalizing it (because it’s the ‘libtards’ getting shot for it). Pretty soon they’ll all be cheering on the Big Beautiful Gun Roundup.

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    Settle down people. This isn’t what you think it is.

    They’re using this as an explanation of why Pretti was executed.

    They’re not suggesting that MAGA dickheads cant carry guns.

    While irreconcilable to any thinking person. These two statements can happily co-exist in the minds of idiots.

    This whole thing is “rules for thee but not for me”.

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      They’re using this as an explanation of why Pretti was executed.

      Yeah, and they’re saying they should be restricted, moreso than they are. That’s not the traditional conservative position.

      They’re not suggesting liberals can’t carry guns either. They’re saying neither should carry a gun to a protest.

      It’s a bizarre position.

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      I’ll never forget the surprised Pikachu faces on all of those armed MAGA chuds on January 6th when one of them actually got shot.

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    They are clearly trying to ensure that they will never be subject to a legitimate election again. Minnesota is a test for how many constitutional amendments they can break. Presidential term limits are absolutely the target. When the oligarchs no longer need their cult they will repeal the entire Constitution. Welcome to the New Confederacy.

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      Trump is nearing his life’s term limit. A 3rd term from him personally is not particularly concerning. That’s still a red line in the sand that we should never allow anyone to cross but I’ll be surprised if he makes it through his current term in good enough condition to even pretend to be in charge.

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        Trump is just a symptom. The christofascists in his ear are the sickness. Trump is there just to bulldoze through the Constitution and establish a one party system.

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            Another will replace him. Not vance either, not for long. If you I think everything goes back to normal after this President is out you are quite mistaken.

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            I agree that the success of Trumpism has been due to his personality cult and nothing else. But they are basing their power more and more on open violence, terror and propaganda. It is very well possible that they manage to consolidate this rule of fear before Trump becomes unfeasible.

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        Maybe not, but what I see is more ideologically in line with the Confederates than with the Nazis. That was the secret sauce the whole time. They want the entire US government to be reset to the antebellum era and to pick up as though Lincoln never existed.

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          Except this time they wont care much what skin pigmentation their chattel have.

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    Hahaha children are shot in the face. Who cares. A white man packing a concealed weapon is murdered by ICE. Oh noes we must have gun control!

    Get the fuck out of here.

    Edit: I’m laughing incredulously because the situation is so fucked.

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        It’s about the feeling of safety. I mean could you imagine how terrifying it must feel just walking around a school, dragging a kicking and screaming 10 year old out and think to yourself… what if one of these kids has a gun and starts shooting! We all see it on the news every day… but it’s so much easier to watch when it’s just little kids trying to get about their day getting shot. It hits so much harder when it’s 30 year old trained gunmen that might have to face being in the line of fire.

        Or walking down the street just minding your business spraying pepper spray in peoples faces, and think to yourself, what if someone in this crowd has a gun. I’m only wearing 3 layers of body armor, and I’ve only got 15 friends around also armed with large assault rifles, gas masks, and tear gas to protect myself, maybe one person in this crowd, might have a weapon somewhere, and might even think about using it.

        Or imagine the fear they feel every time they burst down someones door, with only 10 other soldiers, and a mere inches of riot shield in front of them to protect them from these people that have a small chance of owning a firearm somewhere in the house, these brave souls need protection!

        I can’t imagine what it’s like to live in that kind of fear.

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      I think this is more intended to remove the citizen population’s ability to retaliate against a tyrannical government. You know the thing the second amendment was intended for, according to some folks.

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        Him and bondi were on camera at the start of this term with Bondi telling him that somebody charged with a crime, fed or state, the feds would come in and take their guns and even if they were found not guilty later the feds would decide whether they wanted to give the guns back or not. And the president was like huh okay.

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      A lot of good regulation only happened after the privileged started complaining/suffering. It is what it is. I would take it, but I don’t think it will happen with this “administration”.

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      Was kid getting shot in the face in public caught on video from three separate angles?

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        I bet Ed cameras in the you build in Texas Why that so-called law-enforcement was standing around while all those kids were getting murdered I’m sure they have video of it, but I also remember them editing out the audio of the video because of the screaming in the background why the agents were Standing around on their cells

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          If you don’t understand the different reaction between something reported to have happened and something documented with multiple videos you don’t understand humans much.

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            I’ve always said all legislators should be required to walk through the aftermath of an event like sandy Hook or Uvalde before they are allowed to vote on gun legislation. And while I understand why parents would never want video of that made available to the public, I also think it would make a huge difference in public opinion if it was–that’s why I say at least the lawmakers should have to see it (and sight isn’t the only sense of it they’d never forget).

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              I have no doubt of any of that. They wont make it public and all the reasons they use will never be their reason. They don’t want us to see how they failed. That a exonerated coward stood by while it was happening and broke his oath doing so. That none of of the law enforcement on site had the courage to go in and end it. If that video would have been made public though it would have not changed the politicians that much. Far too many of them lack the ability to feel the pain of others. Its how they got to where they are.

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              Its not a troll. Its a genuine comment on the nature of people and where and why they focus on certain atrocities more than others.

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                No, you’re a troll, because he’s not suggesting they disarm the entity that was murdering people. He wants to disarm the people who are getting murdered.

                It’s not the video causing him to make this statement.

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                  I’m not but you can’t seem to understand or comprehend what I’m saying and I have no more time to waste on any of you.

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    California’s strict gun control started with Reagan because he wanted to disarm the Black Panthers. Republicans are pro 2A, as long as it is reserved for white conservative/fascist people.

    EDIT: Governor Reagan. So, before he became president, but 100 fold once he got shot.