[a farmer is talking in front of an angry crowd, pitchforks and all] I use the worst pesticides on my crops, raise animals in cramped conditions, take their babies away for slaughter, and have little respect for the environment

[the same farmer is talking in front of a now happy crowd, hearts and all] I’m a small local independent farmer though

https://thebad.website/comic/localwashing

https://bsky.app/profile/thebad.website

  • justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io
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    Propaganda.

    Note that the issues the US had in the fall with Avian influenza are compounded not by local farmers, but by massive corporate factory farms that optimize output at the expense of everything else.

    Canada functionally escaped the issue because the farms here are smaller and more family-based, and so with healthier birds and cows in smaller localized populations made it much easier to maintain.

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      I’m guessing that most of the larger farms in the US also aren’t family owned anymore as investment companies have yaken over lots of them.

      Investment companies don’t give a shit about anything, less even about animal rights. The only thing that counts is short term profit

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    I mean, I can’t speak for everyone of course but a couple of the local farms near me are open to the public as kind of a tourist-y attraction. They have petting zoos and hay rides in the fall and sell a lot of their own products (honey and honeycomb, produce of course, baked goods, apple cider, etc). And everyone is welcome to see the animals grazing on real green plants, in open fields.

    With other farms I can talk to their employees at the local market, I can find news articles about them, or I can even drive by and look then up myself.

    Are they perfect? Of course not. But… What are you asking people to do? Should we all just give up and go to the local Wal-Mart for all our produce? Or are you naive enough to think everyone should be growing their own Victory gardens?

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          also many people live in apartments and as such don’t have space to grow plants. Many people also live under HOAs, and as such aren’t allowed to grow edible vegetation, only decorative vegetation. These are difficult problems to solve, and “just live somewhere else” is rarely a viable solution.

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          I was joking of course, but I will say that a cool thing about gardening is you know exactly what you used on your plants instead of taking an industrial farm’s word for it

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    Eh. If you’re shopping local strictly for health benefits, you’re doing it wrong. Reduced transportation costs still has an important environmental effect, the money helps the local economy, and there are just so damn many fresh products that can’t be obtained any other way(fresh milk and un-bleached, un-washed Eggs, for starters).

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      Eggs with chicken poop all over them are not a good thing healthwise. I’m all for the clean eggs from my local market.

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        Okay so, aside from the fact that, as another person pointed out, you can wash the eggs, that ‘poop and stuff’ includes a sort of exterior membrane that keeps the eggs fresh even when left out of the fridge.

        Commercial washing removes that membrane, which is why those store-bought eggs go bad faster.

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          And wash your fingers… it really isn’t an issue with unwashed eggs plus they have the benefit of not needing to be refrigerated.

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            I’ve really enjoyed getting local unwashed eggs and them getting to be room temperature. Really helps the baked goods, since I never remember to leave my fridge eggs out long enough.

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          And don’t forget to disinfect them to get rid of the salmonella, too. I’d rather just buy clean eggs.

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                If you cook them to an appropriate temperature what do you think will happen to the outside? I don’t know were you live, but here in Europe you won’t find washed eggs and we wash our hands with soap and water after touching the eggs. It doesn’t matter how clean your eggs are, you need to practice good hygiene in the kitchen anyway.

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                  I live in California in the United States, and I’ve never heard of washing hands after touching regular supermarket eggs.

                  After a little googling, why this is so: California state law requires state-registered egg producers, i.e. any commercial size operation, whether they’re in-state, or out-of-state, to perform treatment, such as pasteurization and vaccination of laying hens against Salmonella.

                  “Repacked eggs” i.e. eggs in a typical supermarket egg container must be “clean” which has a specific legal definition which pretty much means washed and, under USDA rules, sanitized.

                  In Europe, things are obviously different, and may be different in each country/province/city.

                  This state law only applies to commercial egg producers. Obviously if I were to handle eggs from backyard chickens, I would have to wash and sanitize the eggs and my hands.

                  TIL!

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                  It’s really the wrong question here in the States, or at least for supermarket eggs here in California.

                  Vaccinated chickens and pasteurized eggs virtually eliminate salmonella inside the eggs.

                  We can have our eggs sunny side up.

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      My family has been doing mixed beef cattle and crops for 5 generations. The land is a bit too tough out there to rely solely on crops, but has some good areas for planting interspersed with hilly areas only really suitable for grazing. Single family mixed farms are still common enough in certain areas, but dwindling, as (often) Chinese mega corps gradually buy up the land and amass what they can. It’s more efficient and there is less concern for stewardship of land that will be passed down to one’s family, so it’s easy for them to be more economically competitive.

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        huh, i guess there are still a few left. we always grew just enough corn we didn’t have to buy feed, but everything else was devoted to the cattle.

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    Why would a small farmer need to optimize their production to the point where they’re doing all that?