Fucked around and found out.
I hope these bigots fail and lose their farms. They deserve nothing but shame.
The plan is for JD Vance to buy up the farm land so that’s fun.
https://www.farmlandgrab.org/post/32430-jd-vance-funded-acretrader-here-s-why-that-matters
I doubt they 1) pay well 2) have decent working conditions 3) are looking very hard 4) want Americans at all - instead wanting H-2A workers to replace the undocumented immigrants they are used to exploiting.
What are they “conserving”?
Their right to regress.
Racism
actually i looked that up recently and it could be that “conservative” doesn’t refer to “conserving” something in the sense of keeping it around.
rather, it comes from latin “serva” which means something like “hard work”. so, “conservative” could mean something like “somebody who is hard working” or “somebody with hard work”. referring to the “we are hard-working people” mindset.
Interesting background on the word. Thanks for sharing…I don’t think that’s it, because wouldn’t they be for hard working people then? Like the people doing the actual hard labor on the farms?
“The whole thing is screwed up,” said John Painter, a three-time Trump voter who runs an organic dairy farm in Westfield. “We need people to do the jobs Americans are too spoiled to do.”
What wages are you offering? Perhaps you are the one who has been spoiled by cheap labor.
“We moved to H-2A out of necessity,” added Sarah Zost, an orchard grower in Gardners, Pennsylvania. “No one wants to use the program. It’s a paperwork nightmare.”
So it’s fine to require these immigrants to jump through all sorts of hoops and navigate the beauracracy, but for these poor American farmers running businesses it’s simply too much to ask.
The cognitive dissonance with these fools is astounding.
What wages are you offering? Perhaps you are the one who has been spoiled by cheap labor.
The thing is that if you increase wages, food products in the supermarket get slight (but only very slightly more expensive). We’re talking: the apple costs 34c instead of 32c. It’s very slight increases, because labor in many types of food products make up only a small part of the total cost of the product. Basically people are fear-mongering that food would become unaffordable, but it’s only a slight increase, and it would be more than compensated by the better wages, which make the products more affordable.
“Do me harder daddy”.
Dumbasses
“It’s a shame you have hard-working people who need labor, and a group of people who are willing to work, and they have to look over their shoulder like they’re criminals,” Porter said. “They’re not.”
And your three-time vote for Mr. “They’re eating the dogs, they’re eating the cats” made it that way.
If you want hands on your farm, you’ll have to pay more.
If you want hands on your farm, you’ll have to accept trans- and non-binary people for who they are.
If you want hands on your farm, you’ll yave to support Democrat-style immigration policy.
“People don’t understand that if we don’t get more labor, our cows don’t get milked and our crops don’t get picked,”
Oh, trust the people understand. It’s the fuckwits you keep voting for that do not.
He clearly has enough time to give a interview. He needs to get out there and milk them cows. Bootstraps will make the job easier.
he sold those cows after he couldn’t find workers, it’s in the article …
If he has no steak in the game, who cares about his opinion?
I know, but he’s still bitching. Maybe he should sale off some more.
I just can not believe this and other “leopards ate my face” stories like it. This man knew his business and livelihood depended on immigrant labor. He knows exactly how his farm operates. And Trump was very clear on his intentions regarding immigration. It was one of his core policies he ran on. It’s impossible that this farmer had not considered this outcome. This story and others like it have to be fiction.
I think over the past few decades, immigration enforcement has been a benefit to these people.
The government cracks down on illegal immigration publicly, which keeps an environment of fear among a community that knows they can’t rely on the government to ensure fair wages or safe working conditions. The people hiring them then know they can exploit immigrants without any scrutiny.
In the past, maybe immigration enforcement loss them 5% of their labor, but saved them 20% in wages (completely made up numbers). Maybe they expected the same now?
This is why, in Trump’s own words, smart people don’t like Trump.
Having interacted with many of these people, I think their delusion was that when the immigrants disappeared, local high schoolers would just show up and work for minimum wage.
I don’t see that business model working out well either. I’d like to see our youth educated in hard work and being exposed to where our food actually comes from. But motivating teens is challenging. And if it were my child I would rather they experience nature in a way that doesn’t permanently damage their back. I don’t particularly want to see poor immigrants being exploited either. Maybe this whole strategy of destroying family owned farms, and selling them to Vance owned private equity firms could result in a more equitable way of farming in the end? But I know that’s extremely unlikely.
It’s because of identity politics man. Conservatives have to suspend disbelief of a lot of things to vote the way they do, I trust those in their immediate lives and purposefully don’t consider the outcome if those people are wrong.
Perhaps they were misguided by “I’ll end war in Ukraine in 24hrs” and thought fascist immigrant raids bare the same probability 🤷♂️
His only alternatives would have been to vote for a Democrat, or stay home and risk a Democrat being elected.
Have the day you voted for.
It’s amazing how surprised they are when the administration does what they say they’re gonna do.
“He tells it like it is!”
“He’s just joking!”
“How could this have happened?!”
“it’s got to be because of the trans people! Or ms 13! Or communism! Or Jewish space lazer!”
Is funny watching them take zero accountability for their actions. They just can’t understand why the rest of the world isn’t throwing themselves at Trump’s feet.
The thing they really haven’t caught onto yet is that this has been orchestrated. American farmers have been conglomerating for decades, and JD has some big investments in private equity agriculture to do exactly that. If they can’t find workers or can’t navigate the paperwork they will eventually have to sell the farm.
And after they are sold to corporations, those visas will suddenly be much easier to process.
He’s a triple Trumper, so it’s hard to have any sympathy for him.
