Because they operate in bad faith and cannot be trusted.
This is true, but I think it’s even more simple than this.
They want a specific guy to win.
While we want specific policies to win.
If I wanted specific policies to win there’s nobody available to vote for. Unless you think “the one viable option that isn’t theocratic fascism or a reich” is a policy, since that’s what I’m voting for this year.
The authors of Project 2025 need a malleable president for their agenda. Trump is perfect in that regard. He will sign bill that lands on his desk.
Bonus: should Trump die, JD is way more keen on the 2025 agenda.
For clarity, are you suggesting that everyone who had qualms with Biden’s age was operating in bad faith?
Everyone who had qualms about Biden’s age and yet not trump’s is operating in bad faith.
I can’t speak for everyone, but why exactly would I care about Trump’s age? It’s certainly a liability for him, but I was never going to vote Republican anyway, whereas my likelihood of voting Democrat has only risen now that Joe has stepped down. Why on earth would I want to potentially inspire Republicans to start pushing for a more competent candidate who might have a better chance of being elected, while also beingore competent and able to do more harm if they were to win?
For media outlets reporting on this, sure, but I think you’re being overly general when talking about individual voters expressing reservations about the candidate being pushed by the party they will, in all likelihood, wind up voting for.
As far as I can tell, outside opinion columnists this position is entirely hypothetical.
That’s because the ones acting in bad faith got exactly what they wanted, and are on on to a new project. They aren’t going to keep asking for Biden to step aside when he already has.
Ironically, the new project is complaining he did step aside.
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I don’t really care if they got what they wanted when the result is that way more voters are way more hyped about voting against Trump. The people who were convinced Biden was destined to be re-elected if he went up against Trump again were delusional and putting way more people at risk by demanding everyone shut up, fall in line, and be grateful they were giving us a not-Trump to vote for.
They were as braindead as Biden. They didn’t want to think.
The same ones who prevented Trump from winning were operating in bad faith? Seriously… it was the Democrats complaining saying he should step down. Why on earth would Democrats want Republicans to pick a new candidate now? Do you thinking helping Republicans somehow helps your side?
And that’s pretty much everyone in mainstream media
And the Genocide Joe canvassers on lemmy
Jesus fucking christ Lemmy has jumped the shark.
We criticized Biden because we wanted a shot at winning and he didn’t have one.
Trump as an opponent is the best shot Democrats have for winning. He’s deeply unpopular.
It’s shocking ho idiotic takes like this are.
They’re obviously talking about republicunts talking about Biden’s age. No one’s talking about you.
You’d understand it too once you stop being a perpetual victim.
Oh I assure you, they are punching left.
It’s a shame they missed the (imo) significantly more poignant joke of having the guy painting from the roof to cover up “Don’t”.
The bothsiderist media didn’t even bothsides things when both candidates were older. Now that only the Republican one is older, I have zero expectation of them asking why donnie is so old.
How old is he?
Did you even read the title? Jesus. He is 539.
Did he just age a year in 2 minutes?
First post didn’t appear for me and I couldn’t find it in post history so I posted again but forgot the number. Thanks for keeping me honest, m8.
republicans will never admit to anything ever, not one instance has a republican EVER admitting to fault in ANY scenario.
Similarly, pretty much every accusation from every Republican can be interpreted as a confession
be careful, they’re going to say this about democrats now, it’s literally the only thing they do.
Are people really just now realizing he’s barely coherent? That’s why he got so much coverage 9 years ago in the first place. It’s been the #1 joke every fucking day for night show hosts since he rolled down that escalator to say Mexicans are rapists.
Covfefe
DRUMPF said covfefe 😂😂😂😂😂 #resist #smallhands
Obummer likes Dijon #birther #hesblack #ODS
Tan suit, chinese bow, latte salute
We didn’t start the fire
People need to start talking about a possible President Vance. If Trump wins, it is a near certainty that he will die or be declared unfit within a year or two at most. If that were to happen, Vance will become president. Project 2025 would have Vance’s full support and the support of the Federalist Society and the backing of billionaires like Thiel and Musk.
Sadly, Trump’s Klan enthusiast father lived to 93.
In addition to Reagan effectively destroying the nation, he and his enabler wife Nancy kept his Alzheimer’s decline quiet so he could complete his second term to protect muh legacy. Being declared unfit requires your own cabinet turning on you, that requires appointing people of integrity to begin with.
Not only could we be governed by someone deep into senility. We already have.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jan/17/ronald-reagan-alzheimers-president-son
Trump being senile doesn’t matter to Trump voters. As long as he hates the same people they hate, they’ll decorate their trailers and go out and put him in power.
Biden being senile did matter to Biden voters. That’s why they attacked him on it. And rightly so. Let the poor man retire. It’s not an easy job if you actually bother to do it.
The GOP won’t replace Trump even if they his health does concern them, because if they do they go from just under half of the votes to being obliterated.
I have a theory that they’ll tolerate anything to get into the whitehouse again, get proj 2025 rolling, then Vance et al do the ol 25th Amendment cha-cha and Peter Theil gets to control the white house.
By himself, Vance can’t get Theil there, but riding the deranged tangerine palpatine into office is extremely plausible.
…i mean, to be fair he was barely coherent at seventy, too: that’s kind of his whole thing, sputtering out incoherent word salad so his fanbase can infer whatever they want to hear…
“Well, yes, he said that but what he really meant was this. I like him because he tells it like it is.”
Wanting to know why they’re so quiet about Trump? They’re voting for him.
The majority of people who objected to Biden were Democrats that wanted a better candidate because we were afraid that Biden would lose to Trump. The majority of Republicans can’t conceive of a universe where Trump ever loses an election so there hasn’t been an equivalently loud push on the GOP side.
Also, while I’d personally rather Trump be off the ballot entirely a fair chunk of democratic voters seem to think we’re better off with Trump on the GOP ballot than someone who is younger and may be better able to seem less openly deplorable. I disagree with that notion and also think Trump should step down because any chance that he wins the election is too high of a chance.
Basically, this article is drawing an equivalence between two very different situations.
I also love the implication that it somehow wouldn’t be a massive waste of time for Democrats to go tell Trump he’s too old to run. Like how worthless is your time if you’re gonna spend it barking up the worlds dumbest tree. If I wanted to be ignored, I’d at least ask for something like no longer selling weapons to nations credibly accused of genocide.
Trump on the GOP ballot than someone who is younger and may be better able to seem less openly deplorable. I disagree with that notion and also think Trump should step down because any chance that he wins the election is too high of a chance.
I REALLY would hate to see a Harris v Haley election.
Harris would have it in the bag. Haley is a true believer in pro-life policies in a way that would really turn off independents. Haley is an absolutely awful national candidate and can only really thrive in regions where Christianity has a death grip on the electorate.
Trump’s agnosticism is actually one of his political strengths - it should be a weakness with his base but for some reason he’s viewed as the second coming of jesus fucking christ and I really don’t understand how the fuck those delusional religious folks managed to square that in their mind. Especially when it was Biden vs. Trump with Biden being a deeply religious and non-shitty Catholic.
The GOP is seriously unhinged right now… and every GOP politician who has called that out has been instantly destroyed… that’s actually another contrast of this article - Pelosi openly and really fucking brazenly called for Biden to step down, Johnson, Scalise… fucking McCarthy? Those clowns would never dare because unless they act as a group it’s political suicide.
Nothing is disqualifying for a Republican candidate for president.
Except maybe, I dunno, having a plan for healthcare or housing affordability or something.
He’s had a plan for healthcare (dismantling it) for nine years and did jack shit.
He has concepts of a plan.
It’s not just Republicans, but Republicans are notorious for their universal double standards that only one without shame can have.
To varying degrees, every single person has things in their life that they like, and no amount of accurate, undeniable, objective, information about it being bad/wrong/inefficient etc will change their mind unless they decide they want to.
There’s plenty of disqualifying traits for Republicans, which is a large part of why they now have a God king who wears diapers and has more fingers than functional brain cells.
There’s plenty of disqualifying traits for Republicans
What are they? This guy literally tried to overthrow the government. He openly courts Russian influence in elections. He openly admits to being easily corrupted and persuaded by individual campaign donors to the point of changing his entire position on the basis of what companies they own. He has been convicted of felonies. He has been convicted of fraud. He has been found in court to have sexually assaulted women. He had his charity organization shut down due to fraud. Many of his attorneys can no longer practice law because of the things he had them attempt in courtrooms. He conspired to bring fake electors to Washington DC. He sent love letters back and forth with a North Korean dictator. He bragged about assassinating a murder suspect in the Pacific Northwest. He’s incontinent. He’s unintelligible. He was impeached twice. He said “we’ll take the weapons first and then do process later”. He said of John McCain “I like people who weren’t captured”. He fucked a porn star while his wife was pregnant and then he paid the porn star off to cover up the story during the election. He mocks disabled reporters. He smells like a full diaper. He said he can “grab women by the pussy” because he is a star. He sold beans from the oval office because a Goya executive said they supported him. He called Nazis “very fine people”. He told the American public that “they’re looking into” injecting disinfectants in order to cure COVID. He refused COVID testing and then went on-stage for a planned debate with an active case of it. He wanted a military parade. During the passage of his meager working-person tax cut, he forced the US treasury to attach his signature to the checks. He’s fundamentally weird and never appears to laugh or ever even tell a coherent joke. He rarely even smiles. He likely gave secret documents to the Russians. He and his family used private email servers continually despite pretending that his political opponent deserved to be in jail for doing so. He complains constantly about the state of the country whether or not he is leading it. He does not appear to have a single friend in the world. Everyone who works with him winds up regretting it. He goes on strange rants where he speaks as if “the late great Hannibal Lecter” is or was an actual person that died. He lies about his mental and physical health. The list goes on and on and on.
Yet despite all of that…HE IS THE GOP NOMINEE FOR PRESIDENT.
The guy is a walking version of “the aristocrats” joke.
As far as I can tell a disqualifying trait for the Democratic candidate for President is looking too old or letting out a “BYAAAAW” at a campaign event. So this isn’t exactly a “both sides” type of thing. One party’s candidates have to walk on water to barely win, while the other’s continually rack up absolutely absurd would-be dis-qualifiers and continue to be taken seriously by the media, the government, and the public.
A Republican isn’t gonna read that wall of text and neither am I, because it doesn’t matter.
Everything and more you listed Trump does doesn’t matter to his voters, because he’s gonna be super racist and super pro Christian and that’s literally the entire Republican voter Christmas list, so anything else is irrelevant.
he’s gonna be super racist and super pro Christian and that’s literally the entire Republican voter Christmas list
He’s going to be pro-industry, pro-oligarchy, and pro-rich people. He’s going to do whatever the moneyed interests in the country (and the globe for that matter) want him to do.
That’s the entire Republican Christmas list. As long as he does that, they don’t care about what he says or does and they’ll paper over all of it on their news network.
On Hexbear and .ml seething that Trump isn’t going to win.
Fuck Hexbear, Russian trolls, and tankies everywhere.
Be careful, some people from there will bring up one thread where they called Putin a far-right fuckface!
You mean, evidence?
Yeah. Anecdotal evidence. The exception, not the rule.
You know, critical thinking?
If you say that someone thinks / says something, without any evidence, and I bring evidence of the contrary, I think this is far from being anecdotal.
We aren’t talking about a person, we’re talking about a community.
If one person in a community condemns Putin while the rest of the community peddles his talking points, that person is the exception. Their contributions prove nothing about the community.
This kind of evidence only works in the aggregate.
Oh no I was using a person as a metaphor. Just replace person with community.
… I don’t think anyone on .ml is mad about Trump not winning. And yeah, Trump is too old. Of course Biden was worse, but Trump’s cognitive abilities are also not good enough to lead a country.
>“.ml doesn’t have terrible people”
>has an .ml account.
😐
Hey, I’m sorry I didn’t get a PhD in “Lemmy instance vibe checking” before I chose to go for the devs’ instance.
Fuck Trump, and fuck generalizing tribalism.
That’s a ridiculous oversimplification of what I said, but go on
Tankies like Trump? I thought they favored that one woman, unfortunately her name escapes me at this moment.
Jill the Spoiler Candidate Stein? Of course they’d like her, she’s in bed with the Russian government.
What are you on about? As a mainliner hexer we would be happy to see Trump not living, just look at the response when he was shot or got covid.
.ml here, I hope he goes to prison for a very long time.
Granted I knew nothing of the differences between .ml, hexbear, etc at the time I joined, and still kinda don’t. To be fair I question what the hell im doing half the time anyway lmao.
Maybe someone that is a little more involved in the different servers could shine some light? Cause man I get frustrated seeing some of the stuff I do, even when I try to tailor my feed to certain subs it still bleeds through lol.
.ml is run by tankies. They ban people for criticizing China and Russia.
Add this account to the victims of communism tally. One gorillion and one!
I’ve seen a bunch of articles about it this past week. With Biden there were a lot of prominent liberal voices calling for him to step down, not to mention the absolute lack of enthusiasm within the rank and file that was showing in polls - with Trump the party’s rank and file are on his side no matter what, so if a prominent conservative calls for him to step down they will be ostracized for it.
This is a weakness among liberals. Some where willing to let Trump win because they did not like Biden. This is not 2016, we know what happens with trump in office now. anyone who lets him win is just as guilty as the people who vote for him.
There is a very distinct double standard when it comes to the candidates and what the media and citizens focus on. Kamala has to be flawless and Trump gets a “Trump will be Trump” attitude.
Trump shouldn’t be up there. I got no issue saying that and it isn’t ageist. I’m not going to also memory hole all the people that blindly defended Biden when you could see with your own eye’s his decline. GOP people never cared from the start it was just a talking point for them.
