It is objectively a lot more male than Reddit or other social media. Reddit has many issues, but lack of women is not one of them.
the Nazi-bot repost spam. So fucking tired of seeing twit-shit here
Probably the lack of diversity among instances.
Everyone is still afraid of defederation, so we don’t truly embrace what the fediverse is capable of.
Do you mean functional/aesthetic or community diversity?
- Lemmy is by and large populated with ex-Redditors, who bring with them some of the same hivemind on certain topics. Eg: Lemmy is very anti-AI or nuanced discussions thereon. Nuclear is bad, etc. Makes bad faith discussions on certain topics almost certain.
- As everywhere else - there’s too much “you’re either on my team or you’re against me” - though notably less than in other spaces
- Upvote / downvote counts: these should be yeeted into the garbage pile of history.
Things Lemmy does well
- Less performative engagement.
- Less American (but arguably that’s still too much for some).
- Despite it all, a measure of civility still exists. Rare.
- You can create your own instance and be ungovernable :)
- No algorithmic engagement bullshit (so far)
- I don’t feel like I have to walk on eggshells every time I post something.
I personally find Lemmy a great deal more pleasant to interact on, with strong pre 2010 forum vibes and I feel that’s a good thing. YMMV
TL;DR: There’s a lot less “look at me, look at me!” on Lemmy and it’s all the better for it.
One thing I’ve found is that people tend to have no chill. I’ve shared some posts with friends that don’t use it and multiple times they’ve responded with “why are they so serious”
I haven’t picked up my knitting in ages, but I guess I could…
I still don’t understand how to navigate the ins and outs of Lemmy and I’ve been here since RIF was killed
This only applies to people left from centrism (progressivism, anarchism, socialism…). “Wokes”, “liberals”, “tankies”, I’ll put them all as leftists in this text.
What is your least favorite thing about the Fediverse or Lemmy?
Lemmy. That interest in politics and critical thinking in general end when we arrive to topics do not concerning the life of the average lemming.
News about technology? Oh, yes, capitalism is wrong and Google is ruining this and let’s do that… Feminism? Meh. Antiracism. Anticolonialism. Humanities defense? Whatever.
Of course, why would women or POC or the third world or non-STEM things would interest a bunch of first world STEM white men? Empathy or congruence with leftism? What’s that? (sarcasm)
And it’s tiring that you see how much time they spend talking about U.S. politics or online privacy, but not a thought can be put when you point out a non-privileged problem. I’ve even seen people get downvoted for saying something they posted or said was problematic.
In my region, leftists often separate completely from these spaces because of this. I don’t want to, I like it here and, overall, my experience is positive and enriching. But yeah, this is one of the worst aspects of Lemmy in my opinion.
Lemmy only exists because the people who were too much of an asshole for reddit (they got banned) decided to make themselves a place where they can’t fully be banned. So, ya, there’s still that core of the “I hate everything” asshats that can’t be gotten rid of.
On the other hand, the huge influx of people that abandoned reddit for moral reasons or because they became a fascist propaganda machine are typically very liberal and open minded (woke). But I find that there’s not much room to have nuanced discussions when every such conversation gets brigaded by the small group of haters and their army of alt accounts and bots.
I also have noticed a massive influx of paid shills here pushing divisiveness, “anarchy”, violence, and “social tolerance” fatigue (they ostensibly are promoting social awareness and causes, but go out of their way to insult what is already a woke group). Unfortunately, this attack on social values works well when you have a group that hates everything already. People just aren’t interested in nuanced discussions when any opinion they voice gets them attacked by what appears to be “both sides”.
It’s full of ignorant twats, just like everywhere else. The only difference is in what they are ignorant about
My least favorite things about it aren’t really specific to lemmy. It’s just the victimhood/doomerism culture here, that generates a ton of hateful angry commentary and the witchhunt mentality of so many of the users is revolting behavior.
But I’m not angry at the world and using lemmy to cope I guess. Like OG reddit, I mostly want to use lemmy to read interesting commentary on interesting events and stories and try and learn something, or articulate and add new POV to discussions. Unfortunately the cultural at large… hates this and sees all arguments/perspectives as a zero sum game where anyone who isn’t confirming/supporting them 100% must also be denying them.
I also don’t get the endless moralizing. I liked a lot how early reddit wasn’t full of moralizing types, and I really hated it when those types of people gained traction and started playing comment police.
People act like it’s easy to get into and conceptualize fedi. I don’t have a problem personally but I have a very rare level of IT comfort for my field and it leaves me feeling very lonely in spaces like this. I even had to take a tech competency credit for my degree (I tested out of it because it was basically a checkbox that asked if I knew how to type but-)
I have a few things.
This place has groups that are singlemindedly bloodthirsty and happy to see people hurt, particularly in the US, and don’t have a problem stating so.
Tangentially - the far left extolling the virtues of governing systems that have never really worked due to weak protections against takeover by bad actors and ignoring that those systems are just as corruptible as any other. Humans are f’d up and someone always games the system for personal or tribal advantage.
Linux. Yeah, it’s great. No, it cannot do everything Windows does, and we’re going to ignore that and deride you for playing AAA studio games that have anticheat that linux breaks or other software that doesn’t work on the OS. That’s your fault, we’ll be smug about it, and still recommend ditching Windows.
Conspiracies. This place acts like it has some superior thought or logic but as soon as something happens the conspiratards immediately make it a conspiracy and can’t be told otherwise regardless of logic - or accept a far more real but less exciting conspiracy. Everyone jumps on the bandwagon.
Lastly it’s missing the hobby and interest groups. It’s mostly memes and politics. I’d like to see more actual communities of interests and support for hobbies on the Fediverse rather than the constant grind of how f’d up the world is.
Lemmy’s tankies are massively annoying, almost as bad as MAGA and the neo-libs on reddit. There are also plenty of young, naive “I just learned theory” kids who obviously are too socially anxious to actually debate in more public spaces but feel empowered here because the bubbles here are just as insular and delusional as anywhere else.
You really see it when you say something unpopular but true like “There’s not going to be a revolution in the USA, we’re nowhere close to a civil war, we need community organizing and coordinated electoral action” and you get like, 30 downvotes and no replies.
the communities here that thrive have massive superiority complexes.
the reason hobby subs here don’t thrive is the userbase here isn’t interested in being humble or chill the way many such communities are humble and chill.
Sometimes I don’t really want to get into a conversation about trans issues. I find the topic very prevalent on here, as if I’ve strayed into a sub by accident. Live and let live, and absolutely respect everyone’s right to be whatever they want, but it’s not a topic I can contribute to - and I certainly I don’t want to upset anyone by wading into an emotive topic I have no experience, interest or knowledge on, so I’d rather just leave it.
I’m just saying that it’s up there with LINUX as a prevailing topic, which I’m similarly disinterested in.
It’s a moral prop. Sort of like pedophilia is for the right, for the left trans issues lets them concern troll and beat everyone over the head with how noble they are for supporting it and how evil anyone is who doesn’t agree 110%. Most of the comments I see about trans issues on here are not even positive, they are mostly ‘if you don’t support trans rights 120% and believe in the removal of heterosexuality, you’re a bigot/nazi/genocide supporter’. It’s insane. but I have no doubt people genuinely think that way because I know ones like that IRL. They tend to be deeply insecure and fragile people who’s coping mechanism is just being insanely irrationally angry. They are just the leftist MAGA types of people.
How is it concern trolling when there are actual concerns about trans people’s continued ability to exist in public life?
believe in the removal of heterosexuality
LMAO No one believes this, but I might start spouting it as a joke, if it’ll make you feel better.
What would “the removal of heterosexuality” even look like? Please, go on! We’re all sooo curious.
but lack of women is not one of them.
See now this is a lie, at least if you filter by certain subreddits lol.
The last time I was on that slopfest of a site, r/Gaming was filled to the brim with posts that all followed the title of “Playing X game with my female SO” and a photo that in no way showed the SO.
So I know for a fact everyone was lying that they had a SO to play with lmao.
My main complaint is the bad search system of Lemmy. You can only search for community but not specific topics using specific keywords.
It is objectively a lot more male than Reddit or other social media.
Reddit circa 2010 was very male, nerdy, and often misogynistic. As it gained popularity, the community became more diverse. As it got more traction, these issues abated somewhat. Once it hit critical mass and became totally mainstream, the audience was diverse enough to make most people forget how it used to be. I miss when Reddit was at the “sweet spot” of being pretty diverse, yet not corporatized to shit.
Lemmy/Fediverse is still in its “early Reddit” stage now. It shows great potential but its basic premise and design probably prevents absolute mainstream adoption. Which is probably a good thing, but I would like to get closer to the sweet spot.
