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    JFC. Last week, my therapist asked me if I knew who Hasan Piker was… it was surrreal… like the internet broke containment and entered real life.

    I’m in therapy for stress and anger management… sometimes politics comes up. My therapist is a middle aged wine mom from the suburbs who literally has one of those “Coexist” bump stickers on her Toyota Prius. I told her I disagreed with him on some stuff, but that I’m probably not his audience. She told me she was watching more of his clips on YouTube. I didn’t know what to say to that.

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    “Not only is he an evil socialist leftist, but he’s also in great physical shape and rather attractive.”

    Weird flex, but ok.

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      I’m guessing that’s why they are so hard on AOC. She is a woman, minority, smart and attractive. They are most upset about being attracted to her.

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        I think I figured this out years ago.

        So male Boomers became used to being catered to by a never ending parade of blonde Fox News hosts. Who would tell these spoiled bastards how they, the white men of the most economically priviledged generation in history, how they were the victims constantly. And how they should be outraged by that.

        So the dopamine reactors of them are now wired to that. Then comes AOC. She’s young, very pretty, and on the news - but she’s NOT telling them that they’re being discriminated against! In fact, her message is that they probably have MORE than their share.

        So their brains, wired to have the horny with the outrage, basically go batshit.

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      What, you think they can focus on policy?

      Are you for giving people healthcare? - no

      Are you for not bombing children? - no

      Are you for taxing the wealthy to redistribute to the majority? - no

      Are you for making things more affordable and equitable for poor and middle class Americans? - no

      Then what are you for?

      MEN IN WOMENS SPORTS, VACCINES BAD, EDUCATION BAD, WOKE LIBERAL IDEOLOGY, THEYRE MAKING THE FUCKING FROGS GAY, PEDOPHILES NEED PROTECTION, THINK OF THE POOR BILLIONAIRES, YOU HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE RIGHT? FLOCK CAMERAS SHOULD BE INSIDE YOUR HOMES, DATA CENTERS IN YOUR BACKYARD, GIVE ME YOUR SWEET SWEET DATA, WE LISTEN TO YOUR CONVERSATIONS THROUGH YOUR TV --Your average conservative

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      I’m legitimately not sure whether, as Hasan Piker, I’d feel more like I’d made it (to some extent you can judge a person by the quality of their enemies) or if I’d worry more about stochastic terrorism.

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        I’ve watched some of Hasan’s reactions to this, and it mostly just seems like he thinks the RNC is sad and obsessed with him. He doesn’t need their attention and he’s certainly not afraid of them

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    I don’t know who this guy is, or why MAGA is so obsessed by him. I’ve never heard one word from him, and don’t even know where Id go to hear him, or see him, or whatever he does. He literally has no influence in my life, at all. I suspect MOST Democrats are like me, and I’m not even a Democrat.

    As long as we allow MAGA to keep us on topics like this, we are LOSING. Whenever they bring up this guy, or trans, or Biden, or whatever their wedge issue Boogeyman of the day is, we need to ignore it, dismiss it, bat it away without a single comment about it, and steer the conversation to one of these topics:

    Affordability (the big one, it got Trump elected, and it will get Dems elected even more)

    Epstein Files: Full disclosure. Trump and his friends are in them

    Data Centers: They will destroy everything, and we’ll pay for it.

    AI: The future is either a permanent 50%+ unemployment rate, or they murder all of humanity.

    Flock Cameras: You will now get daily fines in your mailbox whenever you go 3 mph over the speed limit, and they will track you down and arrest you if you have overdue library books.

    ICE: They will kill us, they are already doing it.

    Taxing Sociopathic Oligarchs and their Corporations: They will pay their fair share of taxes, including on hidden wealth. If they won’t disclose it, it will be heavily estimated.

    Health Care: What health care?

    Student Loan Reform: Sure, just saddle your most productive young citizens with a lifetime of debt as soon as the graduate from college. That won’t ever affect the entire economy in a few years, when they can’t afford ANYTHING.

    MAGA Corruption: Were just going to let this continue like it’s somehow legal?

    The AmerIsraeliWar®: The Draft is coming. The front line of a war is a great place to siphon your dissidents.

    Mass Surveillance: If you aren’t doing anything illegal, then what are you worried about? What’s illegal? EVERYTHING!

    Investigations, Impeachments, Prosecutions of MAGA crime: A president, a Secretary of Defense, a White House Advisor, a bunch of Homeland security turds, a few SCOTUS justices, some congressmen and senators, etc.

    These are the real issues, and we need to take control of every discussion, steer them to these issues, and make them defend their record, and their plans for America’s future.

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      Funnily enough, I think MAGA is driving more people to Hasan who don’t know him like you. And, I mean, he shares those same opinions so 🤷‍♂️

      MAGA is just obsessed with him because he’s involved with DSA and they’re trying to create an enemy to direct vitriol towards. In this case, it’s the DSA who have had several candidates coming from the left of the Democrats win elections (almost like what they’re running on is popular or something lol.) Being decentralized, they’re trying to name a figurehead so they can demonize the org as a whole through a recognizable figure. Hasan, being a popular streamer, is who they picked seemingly because he was fairly left and said some very provocative things, especially out of context. That’s the attempt at least.

      Honestly, capitalism has done a better job at promoting socialism than socialism ever has. And this is kind of case in point lol. People that seek out this crazy radical watch him and recognize his ideas aren’t radical. He wants everyone to have healthcare, to have access to education, to have their tax dollars go towards making everyone’s lives better and not to forever wars and/or billionaires.

      This tactic works on those who are uninformed. Those who seek information, it backfires massively.

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      Same here. I know I’ve heard the name before, but probably only in the context of Republicans freaking out about him. I didn’t know who he is, or why they don’t like him

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      Issue with affordability, is they blame Dems when not their fault, don’t understand what president and congress can really do about affordability, so if not happy, they assume voting for the other one will fix. Last time they ignored the reasons for inflation, believed the propaganda, and said let’s try maga again. Until the core issue of critical thinking is fixed, and understand how all this works, they will keep following the propaganda on the social feeds they sit and absorb, numb from the artificial scarcity they keep voting for or don’t show up. They are too stressed from that to think and just mindlessly feed on the pacifying videos and graphics.


      Voters didn’t care,

      Misinformed selfish hasty,

      Now nazis kidnafp


      Could have voted for,

      Progress but were told that Dems,

      Make gay trans furries

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    I’ve only ever heard of this guy because of people trying to backlash him.

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      I discovered him when they tried to pretend he was zapping his dog on stream. It was an interesting sequence because apparently they targeted people engaged enough to believe a wall of text on Reddit or a video compilation on YouTube, but not engaged enough to actually watch his channel to check anything.

      Obviously they found a large audience, but hey Hasan gained a follower I guess.

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        That’s how their entire canceled culture works.

        The book bans are just lists of books that none of them have read too.

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        This is the type of shit that makes the left looks ridiculous. He does zap his dog. He has literally shown the collar on cam (days after) but showing it has tape over it. He has literally been caught lying multiple times. You can see him, multiple times, reach for something off screen and his dog suddenly going back into place. There is a video of it happening and his dog suddenly yelping, which is what started this. “Her claw got caught”: 1. Do you wish to buy a bridge? 2. He still barely gave a fuck, which is condemnable regardless. He also used to complain about his dog moving around before the “incident”, instead of just laying in one spot.

        Just because someone is a leftist it does not mean you should cover for them. That is cult like behaviour. Fuck Hasan, fuck animal abusers, and fuck people covering for animal abusers just because they are aligned politically.

        Edit: There’s also this older moment:

        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FT8ucadGCVc

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          There is a video of it happening and his dog suddenly yelping, which is what started this. “Her claw got caught”: 1. Do you wish to buy a bridge?

          It was her dew claw. Honest question: have you ever had a large dog?

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            Yes, I’ve had dogs all my life including large ones. I don’t have time to keep writing the same thing, so here’s a copy paste from another comment of mine:

            So we know she’s wearing an electrical collar, we know he is lying about it, we know there are more similar moments on stream, and we have the past history of Hasan pulling a dogs tail… So why would you believe him about the claw? The only reason to believe it’s the claw is because he said so. But we already know he is a liar, and showed complete disregard for her and didn’t even check on her.

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              So we know she’s wearing an electrical collar,

              Is this how you think arguments work? We don’t know that. That’s literally what the argument is about, you don’t magically win by default by just claiming it as truth.

              Go fuck yourself, she clipped her dew claw on her bed. Big dogs can be clumsy. Get a fucking life.

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                All of you are projecting so fucking hard LMAO. Second terminally online person that tells me to get a life.

                Look at your account age and your number of comments. Then look at mine. You have a problem, you fucking loser.

                Fuck you for defending an animal abuser. He literally showed the collar on stream – DAYS AFTER PEOPLE WERE CALLING HIM OUT - and it was an electrical collar with black tape over the prongs, which he claimed to be a “vibrating colar”.

                You are fucking scum. Fuck you and your cult of animal abusers and defenders.

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                  Yikes. Are you ok?

                  I’m kind of just at a loss for words… I’m in a cult of animal abusers and defenders? Because…?

                  Because all of the evidence that I saw showed a big dog getting her dew claw caught on her bed? But the way, something that literally happened to one of the dogs I had growing up. In front of me. Something that I’ve seen happen exactly right in front of my own fucking eyes.

                  For whatever reason, you’ve been convinced otherwise.

                  And this means that I’m scum, and I’m in a cult of animal abusers? Do you know how fucking offensive that is? Like honestly go fuck yourself.

                  I’m also not really sure what my comment count has to do with it. Not that I feel the need to defend myself, but Lemmy is the one and only form of social media that I use, so yeah I post a lot of comments.

                  Are you really gonna go on Lemmy and give others shit for being “terminally online”? Especially given the current topic of discussion… The fact that either of us is even aware of the situation means we’re both terminally online, my friend.

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            Your account is 3 months old and you have 2.4k comments.

            I’ve been here over 3 years with less than 500.

            Lol

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                Oh, another deflection. How surprising.

                Do you have anything of value to say? I guess it’s not hard to get to 2.4k comments in 3 months when it’s all completely worthless and void of any substance. I guess we must all find meaning somewhere, but I hope you find s better place. And that you stop defending animal abusers.

                Edit: also .ml user LOL, I hadn’t even been looking at people instances until now, but not surprised.

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          Hey it’s cool man, i sure expected to see one of you people in the replies.

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              people engaged enough to believe a wall of text on Reddit or a video compilation on YouTube, but not engaged enough to actually watch his channel to check anything

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                My brother cultist in Christ, all the clips I mentioned were available on his channel as were the vods. Maybe they’ve been removed by now, but that is where I saw them. I literally used to be a Hasan viewer. You are in a cult.

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                  The whole thing is predicated upon him training her to sit still for hours on end on stream “like a prop”, which she barely ever does. Litterally you just have to watch the VODs , you’d be lucky to find more than 10 minutes of her on-screen on most streams. The whole scenario is pure brainrot and only believable if you don’t look critically at the evidence. So this guy used a shock collar to train a large dog to sit still for hours on end but there was only one (1) transgression ever recorded and she never sits still anyway. How do you square that up ?

                  You’re grasping at a few seconds of video (out of the 6+ hours he produces daily year in year out), edited out of context by people with a very specific agenda, and walls of concern-trolling prose that tugs at your emotional strings for some reason. It’s trivially easy to make up that kind of story and astro-turf it to death, with hundreds of inactive accounts coincidentally posting their first comment in the same week, which happens to be a copy-pasted list of pre-digested arguments and fact-free appeals to outrage. You’re getting QAnon’d in the worst way.

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          He still barely gave a fuck, which is condemnable regardless.

          AHAHAHAHA! That’s hilarious! Could is possibly be more obvious that you’re acting in bad faith?

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          I can’t believe there are so many kanine zap deniers out there.

          I have seen that clip. I have seen evidence provided by accusation. Even collar company claimed that this was a shock collar. There is no denial that he did it. And yet people think cancel culture tries to cancel Hasan for no reason. Dude zaps his dog and we’re jaut gonna blame cancel culture for telling the world this is jot the person to preach to us. Okay then 🤷

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            Because unfortunately people are similar everywhere. People here think they are smarter than right wingers because they believe different things, but they only believe different things because that’s what they were taught/told to believe. A lot of them are also chronically online and desperately want somewhere to belong to; that’s how cults form as well.

            Put all that together and you have people defending an animal abuser just because he’s politically aligned and the figure head of a community they belong to - cult.

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              You don’t have to be it with me, but be intellectually honest with yourself for just a minute. Pretend we are talking about a right wing influencer.

              You can see him, multiple times, reach for something off screen and his dog suddenly going back into place. There is a video of it happening and his dog suddenly yelping, which is what started this. He has literally shown the collar on cam (days after) but with tape over it. He has literally been caught lying multiple times.

              Would you still defend the guy? Be honest with yourself.

              Even if you don’t want to believe he uses a shock collar, his treatment of her is still deplorable. He keeps the dog as a prop on Stream for hours on end. When she moves out of bed he will throw a hissy fit. He has even complained about her roaming around “like a cow”. He only started letting her be more free after the controversy started. His guests have even mentioned her collar being too tight in the past.

              Stop defending this dude.

              Edit: I’ll also add this (older) video of him with his dog Fish:

              https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FT8ucadGCVc

              That is something he did blatantly on camera.

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                Kya (I believe that’s her name) yelped because she clipped her paw on something, there was no shock.

                As for the Fish video, yeah he shouldn’t have pulled the dog’s tail, but he clearly didn’t hurt him since the dog didn’t yelp or anything.

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                  Just because a dog does not yelp that doesn’t make ok nor should we down play it. Excuse while I grab and pull my gf by the arm, slap her even maybe, as long as she doesn’t scream or cry it’s ok…

                  Also, the claw thing is absolute bs. There are multiple moments which play out the exact same as that one, but where she doesn’t yelp. She goes to move away/is standing off the bed; Hasan reaches behind the camera; she suddenly goes back to her spot. In some she moves as soon as she sees him moving his arm. What do you think is happening? Not to mention, after denying the use of an electric collar but refusing to show it, he later (on a different day) went on stream to show the collar and said it was “vibration only”, but you can clearly see there’s black tape on it over where the prongs would be.

                  So we know she’s wearing an electrical collar, we know he is lying about it, we know there are more similar moments on stream, and we have the past history of Hasan pulling a dogs tail… So why would you believe him about the claw? The only reason to believe it’s the claw is because he said so. But we already know he is a liar, and showed complete disregard for her and didn’t even check on her.