I wonder which name she would never dare write down if wanting a pardon…
The title is confusing- she didn’t receive a pardon.
Not right now, she didn’t. In reality who can say what was promised or implied.
At what point is it acceptable to advocate for violence? I’d argue months ago, but I’d settle for now.
Markus also said that she was asked about “every possible thing you could imagine–everything."
So logically that would mean she’s revealed everything she knows about Trump.
Ghislaine Handed DOJ 100 highly selective Names in Shameless Pardon Quid Pro Quo
How much we betting that all the names handed over are Democrats and Republicans critical of trump?
sounds like we’ll get a release of the epstein files with one name missing. That seems strictly better than no epstein file release.
No, it sounds worse. What good is the testimony of a “witness/convict” that you threaten and bribe? It’s not, it’s nothing. Well, if you put it together with the Epstein Files, that might be something. Which is what we already knew.
I think you knew it too, but maybe a few other readers didn’t.
well if you put it together with the epstein files, that might be something
You do realize I was talking about the epstein files right? Seeing as I said “epstein file” in both sentences that I wrote.
Oh I see what you’re saying. You’re saying that you posted your comment in the wrong place and that you didn’t actually care about the article mentioned above. Okay, in that case we agree.
Except even then we don’t agree. If the idea is that they are going to release the files without one name, that means they’re actually going to doctor the files, which makes them totally worthless.
Even if the list had no apparent omissions, how could you verify it wasn’t doctored? Generally, we don’t tend to consider redactions as the same thing as doctoring.
Please, detail the differences you see between redacting and doctoring.
okay well, when one doctors something generally you’re trying to pass it off as though it’s unmodified. When you redact something, you’re being explicit that something is removed. Make sense?
The Pedophile of the United States, folks.
Not that I care much, I wonder how many days she will last on the street. So many people want her gone.
Well we know how long Epstein lasted in prison, so you can bet she’d rather take her chances on the street.
This culture of pardoning criminals for handing over other criminals is sick.
In this case specifically Trump has a huge conflict of interest, and she is probably pardoned for NOT mentioning Trump.I mean yeah, duh. Anything is better than jail, especially when you belong there for trafficking minors. In the likely event she gets freed, I hope she’s harassed until the end of her worthless days.
“Trump’s personal defense attorney meets with witness to coerce her. Presidential pardon dangled to force outcome.
Wait, what the hell is an “auto-mod” doing banning people? That’s not a reason but a method as well, flying in the face of the very point of lemmy’s mod log system.
Ten bucks says they gave her a list to sign off on.
And the list includes all Democrats. This is how they snip the final strands of democracy.
100% this. This will be the hit list they want to go down. Pardon Maxwell, then say listen…here are the names (with no evidence but her word). Then they start making arrests. Probably 5 or less GOP members, the rest nobodies and Dems.
They won’t arrest anyone. If they do, everything about this whole process will be subpoenaed and plastered in public for all to see.
That’s cute, you think the law matters anymore
Precisely. They don’t need to arrest anyone for that crime because they can just lock people up whenever they want anyway. It’s interesting that you realized the law doesn’t matter but couldn’t apply it one step earlier in the process.
*for the poors
Plot twist: Trump issues a blanket pardon for Maxwell, and all the Democrats she names. Whether or not they actually did it, for precisely that reason. If they prosecuted them, then the government have to prove it’s case. But Trump can pardon anything for any reason, even shit he makes up.
That’ll piss off his base because he’s supposed to be the savior, not the swamp or something. They’ll release the “names” and then nothing will happen because, exactly like you said, then they don’t have to prove it.
He doesn’t need the base anymore. If he holds on to power past Jan 2029, he won’t need their votes to do it. He won’t need any votes at all.
Public opinion always matters. Even kings needed their people on their side; why do you think they made up all that divine right bullshit and had the churches preach it so much?
Every country has the government that a sufficient number of people are willing to tolerate. Tyranny can only tip the scales, it cannot change the game. If a populace doesn’t want to be ruled, it cannot be ruled. That’s why fascism relies so heavily on the imposition of a hierarchy; because the people who aren’t at the bottom will support the system that gives them someone else to tread on, while the rich and the powerful live it up at the top. But you always need to keep a significant sector of the population on your side. There always has to be an in group who benefit enough from the government to want to keep it.
Governments end when enough people want them to end. Democracy is just a way of doing it politely.
If they throw the MAGA base a Clinton they might forgive Trump for being a pedo.
Yes, but this might be mutually assured destruction when Clinton says hey fuck you and starts naming his own names
SHE’S GETTING A FUCKING PARDON!!!
And then, probably pushed out of a window.
That’s exactly what I was thinking! As soon as she’s out its open season for those who would like things to remain unsaid. Probably.
She must have realized how much the epstein shit storm was storming and threatened to spill it all. I can’t see any other reason. It doesn’t look good for them to pardon her, that’s for fucking sure.
MAGA did a 180 on her when someone explained her grooming tactics and they realized it’s not all that different from how they get their daughters ready for dates.
Not yet, but we all know it’s coming
Can she get a pardon? IDK if she was convicted on federal crimes.
Motherfucker
“Her lawyer said that the sit-downs this week were Maxwell’s first opportunity to answer questions about what happened.”
I’m pretty sure that she was questioned by investigators during multiple investigations into Epstein over the years, including her own trial that sent her to jail.
Yes but this was the first opportunity for her to answer questions “truthfully” with a sword dangling over her so they could get the answers they wanted.
Truthiness
Truth? Nah, this is when she got instructions on what to say so that Trump is off the hook and she gets pardoned.
You just said the same exact thing, with different words.
100 names is a suspiciously round number. Surely these aren’t just the 100 most politically convenient ones, right?
Maxwell’s lawyer, David Oscar Markus, said after the meetings that his client was asked about maybe “100 different people” in connection with Epstein. He said she did not hold anything back.
She didnt list the names of offenders or anything like that. She just responded to their questions about 100 people.
Sounds an awful lot like the old HUAC trials. “We’ll grant you clemency, all you gotta do is give us the names of your best friends that are communists. We just wanna talk to them.”
So anyone who even said hi to him at one time pretty much.
100 person list: 98 Democrats, a delivery guy, and a repair tech.
Trump is #101 on the list
