• sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    11 hours ago

    Now this is a political ad campaign.

    Bravo.

    The current sitting President is a multiple convicted felon, for, you know, actual heinous crimes.

    That line has been crossed.

    When tyranny becomes law, crime becomes a duty, a public service.

    I can’t say I know or agree with the entirety of this guy’s politics and policies, but goddamn if this is not very clever free marketing for himself.

    • TheTechnician27@lemmy.world
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      1 day ago

      This is a terrible, myopic way to decide who becomes your representative, and I’m honestly sad Lemmy is even upvoting this.

      You need a points system, otherwise everyone’s going to min–max on the low-hanging fruit. “The most” is too basic a metric, but of course as always, Lemmy doesn’t understand the practical realities of politics.

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      3 hours ago

      Eh, bird shot would likely be enough to fuck a camera up and is highly unlikely to damage anything on the way down.

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        1 day ago

        Ricochet and penetration can happen even if you’re on target. The thin shielding of these cameras isn’t going to do much to stop a bullet. There’s certainly more responsible ways of going about this.

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          17 hours ago

          There’s certainly more responsible ways of going about this.

          Maybe, but we’re talking about Tennessee

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          A shotgun with medium-weight birdshot would work well and wouldn’t pose much risk of bullets falling on people. (Birdshot is too light to hold much velocity for long, and even if pellets hit people when coming back down, they’ll be small enough and moving slow enough to be harmless.)

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              19 hours ago

              Eh, .22 suppressed is good for not getting caught yourself, but could still be dangerous to bystanders if you miss or go through the target.

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                12 hours ago

                I disagree. If I’m using a can and not wanting to get caught, I’m using subsonic, which, absolutely will not have the energy to do anything.

                Even super sonic, you’re talking about a couple hundred yards, max. With the precision of shooting one projectile. Your shotgun is going to be just as dangerous, and shooting a spread. So, good luck not missing your target.

                In case you’re curious, I used to run a gun store, and I was an infantryman, I’m not going to say I definitively have more experience than you, but, it’s likely. I know SWAT guys that carry .22 specially for shooting lights.(well cameras these days but they won’t say that)

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                  5 hours ago

                  Your shotgun is going to be just as dangerous

                  Eh… I get where you’re coming from, but most birdshot is still significantly lighter than a single .22 slug – especially a heavy subsonic .22

                  You might be right that subsonic .22 won’t be dangerous by the time it comes back down, but you’re absolutely wrong to say that it’s less dangerous than birdshot.

                  And I’m still not totally convinced of the harmlessness of .22 at range. Sources I’ve found claim that it can still ‘cause harm’ at up to ~2000m. (Of course it’s by no means a practical round for shooting that far, but that’s because of accuracy issues, not because the bullet isn’t still carrying energy at that range.)

                  And I really wouldn’t put much stock in the beliefs and practices of “SWAT guys”. Cops are often misinformed about the guns they use, and they tend to only give lip service to public safety.

    • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
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      20 hours ago

      Yeah, but Donvict didn’t conduct his crimes against property like this guy.

      To hear the cons tell it, BLM riots set entire cities on fire, and the property of businesses were harmed. This, plus mandated shutdowns were the “real” crimes we should have all been more concerned about, as opposed to murder-by-cop or a bungled Covid response that kill a huge surplus of Americans that didn’t have to die.

      I’m just sayin’ - the cons tend to place far more value on property. If Donvict raped some children and some women that’s gonna be met with a collective yawn by the conservatives because no property or businesses were harmed…

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      14 hours ago

      You’re supposed to admit to your actions openly for civil disobedience. It gives you standing to challenge and opportunity to drag things to light. Even now, everyone being tried for this creates headlines that unattributed destruction does not

      At higher levels, it can also clog the justice system and make it expensive to continue targeted policies

      Without all that, it’s just property destruction. Flock could probably have examples made of people caught (seeing as somehow they seem able to sidestep the law), but that frames the issue in a better way for flock

      Taking the justice system head on is just a much more effective method of forcing change… Granted at a personal cost, although getting caught by the big brother machines themselves seems likely

      Or it could be for political advantage…I mean, the cameras are wildly unpopular and badasses who cut (or shoot) through red tape are very much currently in style

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          6 hours ago

          Counterpoint - that’s ineffective messaging. It doesn’t win over people not already on board

          Instead, if you focus on concrete material conditions, like affordability and healthcare, nearly everyone agrees. Or in the case of flock, you roll it in with datacenters and the AI bubble in general

          Winning under a banner of socialism is impractical, but socialist policies are rapidly rising in popularity across the board. If it goes down easier calling it progressivism, who cares? I just want good things

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      Vandalism generally rises to a felony if the property damage exceeds a certain monetary threshold. This is similar to classes of theft.

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      It probably has something to do with using a gun.

      The 2nd amendment only protects your right to purchase and own a gun. Not only is using a gun often illegal, it’s grounds for summery execution. You know, freedom.

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        19 hours ago

        Its the dollar amount the gun stuff would generally be separate charges. Sort of like theft over $500 is a a felony but not under. Of course that varies state to state.

        I’m surprised they didn’t hit him with “unlawful discharge of a firearm” because that is what this is. Or “commiting a felony with a firearm” charges.

        Still agree with it though!