The Minnesota governor said that the path to tyranny “is littered with people telling you you’re overreacting”
Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz was testifying before Congress about his state’s handling of immigration when he learned Sen. Alex Padilla, D-Calif., was forcibly removed from a Department of Homeland Security news conference Thursday.
The irony, he told the attendees of the Center for American Progress’ “Listening to Lead” event Friday, was in lawmakers grilling him and his colleagues, Govs. Kathy Hochul, D-N.Y. and JB Pritzker, D-Ill., over the “incredible crime of treating people like human beings” as FBI agents tackled a sitting senator to the ground and handcuffed him in Los Angeles.
“I am not prone to hyperbole. I am prone to, like, popping off a little bit. I know that,” Walz said, prefacing his argument that Americans are living in a “dangerous” time. “I believed all along we were marching towards authoritarianism, and people were telling me in December, ‘You know, you’re overreacting.’ And I said, “The road to authoritarianism is littered with people telling you you’re overreacting.”
Conservatives have made it abundantly clear that they have zero respect for our Constitution. They are traitors to the United States and enemies of the American people.
It is past time that we start treating them as such.
There goes his Chance at a Democratic Presidential Run! They’ll NEVER let someone who BADMOUTHS their Strategy to Run!
YOU THINK?
Hear my stern words about how the time for stern words is over
The time has come… For two sternly worded letters!
people were telling me in December, ‘You know, you’re overreacting.’
One day after saying this, the former speaker of the Minnesota house is gunned down by a pro-Trump extremist.
*by a MAGA terrorist
Redundant statement is redundant.
MAGA == terrorist
It’s technically redundant, but it’s also meaningful, intentional, and warranted. Especially when at least half of our legacy media establishment is committed to grossly misrepresenting the entire fascistic political movement, and the other half seems to be going whole hog on false equivalence and theatrical shock at entirely predictable authoritarian developments.
It’s a lot like how we need to refer to the rapist Brock Turner (who is a rapist), for the simple reason that it needs to be aggressively forced into public perception. A lot like how the rapist Brock Turner aggressively forced himself on his rape victim, except the outcome here is increased public knowledge instead of Brock Turner (the rapist) getting his jollies.
I agree. I also think a bit of humor can help spread a message. I think the statement is kinda funny and I do think they are terrorists, and so do they.
It’s not redundant until the mainstream media frames the narrative based on reality instead of propaganda.
Words have meaning, and we should do our best to use the most accurate, truthful words to reframe the narrative and ensure clarity; even when others do not.
I agree with you, I was just being cheeky.
How would you react if you saw a similar exchange between MAGAs?
MAGA A: <some sweeping negative generalization>.
MAGA B: You don’t really mean that, right? It’s not all of them.
MAGA A: I’m just joking. Relax.Would you take that response at face value or would you assume that the joke is a thinly veiled statement of their actual beliefs?
I should clarify a little. I do think MAGAs are terrorists, all of them. I was being cheeky about the part about the redundant statement being redundant. My last comment was in response to the person saying it’s not redundant until mainstream media calls it, which is technically true.
Let’s not forget when they called themselves terrorists. If someone wanted me to support my belief, I would reference that. If I were to ask a MAGA the same thing for their negative generalization, I’d imagine I wouldn’t get a response built in truth, like when they say all Dems are pedophiles, or something like that
You son of a bitch I’m in
*Republican MAGA terrorist serial killer
People have been telling me I’ve been overreacting for the last two years. My “overreacting” is the reason why I’m now comfortably in another country.
Yes. I don’t understand his much more “shits gotten real” it needs to get.
Okay that’s pretty funny. Im not anti terrorism if it’s sufficiently funny. This might make the cut.
And as a result, all “No Kings” protests in Minnesota are cancelled. I guess it worked.
Yeah, the cowardly Minnesota leadership cancelled the No Kings protests, and their constituents said “Fuck That,” and showed up anyway. 80,000 angry Minnesota Americans chose to publicly protest, knowing that a vicious murderer who was targeting them was on the loose, while their elected representatives chose to cower behind closed doors.
It’s long past time for Democratic politicians to match the energy, anger, militancy, and COURAGE of their voters. We elected them to represent and fight for US against the MAGA Nazis, and now we expect them to DO THEIR JOBS!
If they won’t, we’ll elect people who will.
Did it?
That’s… Beautiful!
This makes me happy.
I guess you missed the memo lol.
He had to say that because the assassin is still at large. He knew it wouldn’t stop the protests, not if the protests really mattered to the people.
And boy, from what my friends up there showed me, they showed up.
People still showed up, though.
Which is funny because that made them all kings.
He is right at this rate the dems might lose the 2024 elections!
The time for 'strongly worded letters" was over the day they stormed the Capitol.
There was never a time for “strongly worded letters.” Republicans never bought into that weak shit, and now they rule everything.
HoStAgEs of the PeAcEfUl PrOtEsT.
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And legacy/traditional media… All of them. Full stop.
The Great Experiment is over. We had a good run. Time to start thinking about what comes next.
What if I told you there was a German philosopher who already did a lot of thinking about that
What if there were places that have tried to do such things and we could try and learn from their experiments.
Oh definitely, I was just going with Marx as the starting point.
Oh I was more playing on the bit to add on, not disagree in any way!
Pfft…
There’s only one thing that “comes next”…
It ain’t pretty and it ain’t gonna make any reasonable/rational folks happy.
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I was trying to wax philosophical about what form of government is next. But, you’re right. There’s something that comes first.
that’s not true i got a choice
Ok, so what time is it, Tim?
wait fuck
Might be the time for Minnesota to join Canada, Tim. Think big.
If you want to end politically-motivated gun violence becoming normalized, time to leave the USA and ban guns not used for hunting or within shooting ranges.
time to leave the USA and ban guns not used for hunting or within shooting ranges.
Respectfully Canada has been taking it too far with their gun control.
Canada has rightfully banned assault rifles/firearms for personal use back in the 90’s however, recently they’ve been banning guns solely based on appearance calling them “assault style firearms”, just because a firearm looks like it belongs in the military does not mean it was designed for such use.
Edit: I made a post a while back about the Crusader Arms Crypto rifle entirely designed to comply with the recent ban’s on firearms however, the Government of Canada had it reclassified as a prohibited rifle.
I can attest to the fact that these current bans effect people like myself who enjoy sport shooting at ranges or in the wilderness on crown-land, if a criminal has possession of an illegal firearm there is no chance they’ll lawfully turn it over.
I totally understand that overreach makes hunting and recreational shooting activities a lot more difficult.
On the flipside, it means that assembly in Canada is peaceful by default without the constant threat of escalation into gun violence as can happen in the USA. It means that in our cities, 19 times out of 20 we only have to worry about pointy objects being potentially used as weapons by people walking down the street rather than guns.
The styling of firearms is just for show over safety I agree. But maintaining a culture of responsibly using firearms as a privilege of partaking in the sport, rather than as a right, is a distinction that gives us Canadians a better quality-of-life overall. There’s far fewer grey areas in Canada as to where and what guns should be legally used for.
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Tim Walz for president?
“Israel has a right to expand” immediately DQs him.
Shit, you’re right. Guess Trump 3rd term it is.
My dude if y’all allow Trump to run again or the DNC to survive you frankly don’t deserve democracy. You’re smackdab in the middle of a revolution so don’t fucking compromise in advance with the idiots who aren’t even lifting a finger to help you. You run the show now, so act like it.
About 36% of eligible votes sat it out last time, a not so insignificant voted based on a single topic… “Kamala isn’t vocal enough in supporting Palestine” was a big one.
Remember folks, every vote counts. We did this to ourselves.
I’ve said it before elsewhere but it needs to be heard…
It’s just wild to me continually seeing posts not understanding how this all works, and how it would play out. It’s like the people who thought China paid the tariffs…
The house is almost tied. That’s who passes bills, handles impeachments, some of the most powerful committees are, and who impeaches Presidents…
218 Republicans, 213 Democrats.
Let’s see, take New York for example.
26 representatives total, 19 Democrat and 7 Republican.
5 of those were within 2 points last time their seat was up.
People who think that New York is blue, their vote doesn’t matter, skips the votes for the House and Senate and end up losing a Blue house seat but later complain that nothing changes are literally the fucking problem.
Every. Fucking. State. Is. Like. This.
Apathetic morons who don’t realize that the president is only held accountable by the other branch of government then wave their hands around when they did jack shit to help put people in place to, are the fucking problem.
District 3 of California was lost by 24,000 votes. District 22 was lost by 3,000.
Those two seats in the house, along with the close ones in New York, Jersey, Michigan, Illinois, Washington, hell every state… Are what makes the House of Representatives or breaks it.
So, if you think that your vote for president doesn’t matter, so you skip voting and let these other seats slip, yes, you’re a fucking moron who can’t grasp basic concepts of government that are taught in 4th grade.
And don’t get me started on the State House/Senates, how they define voting laws and voting zones and engage in gerrymandering.
Every fucking vote counts.
And until the country realizes it, and starts acting on it, we’ll keep getting the shit we deserve.
House needs a simple majority, and two thirds of the Senate.
Democrats would need ~18 seats.
First, that won’t happen in 2026.
Even the best cases make it hard to win enough by 2028. Which is why impeachment is just not something we can hold out for.
Gerrymandering is part of why this is a problem, which is done at the local level, and again why every vote counts.
How could it play out? Assuming some absurdly weird upside down world just opposite of what we’re living in, this is the only path just looking at the numbers…
Again, Democrats would need to gain 18 net seats. Seats Potentially in Play (Republican Incumbents): This requires looking at seats up in upcoming cycles.
- Class 1 Seats (Up in 2026):
- Highly Competitive Targets: These would be the first priority. States where Democrats have won statewide recently or that lean only slightly Republican. Examples based on recent political history might include:
- North Carolina (Budd-R)
- Alaska (Sullivan-R) - Unique dynamics with ranked-choice voting.
- Stretch Targets: States that are more Republican but could potentially flip under exceptionally favorable conditions (like the hypothetical turnout).
- Iowa (Ernst-R)
- Montana (Daines-R) - Depends heavily on candidate matchups.
- Kentucky (McConnell-R’s seat - potential retirement changes dynamics)
- Kansas (Marshall-R)
- South Carolina (Graham-R)
- Very Difficult Targets: Solidly Republican states requiring overwhelming Democratic turnout and significant shifts among other voters.
- Texas (Cornyn-R)
- Mississippi (Wicker-R)
- Alabama (Tuberville-R)
- West Virginia (Capito-R)
- Oklahoma (Mullin-R - Special election winner)
- Wyoming (Lummis-R)
- Idaho (Risch-R)
- Arkansas (Cotton-R)
- Nebraska (Ricketts-R)
- South Dakota (Rounds-R)
- Louisiana (Cassidy-R) - Jungle primary system.
- Highly Competitive Targets: These would be the first priority. States where Democrats have won statewide recently or that lean only slightly Republican. Examples based on recent political history might include:
- Class 2 Seats (Up in 2028): (Looking further ahead)
- Highly Competitive Targets:
- Maine (Collins-R) - Often competitive, depends on matchup.
- Georgia (Perdue/Ossoff dynamic showed competitiveness, depends who holds it after '26 potentially) - Assuming GOP holds a seat here.
- Stretch Targets:
- Michigan (Peters-D currently, but listing potential GOP flips back if one happened hypothetically before 2028) - Generally leans D, but could be contested.
- New Hampshire (Shaheen-D currently) - Generally leans D, but listing potential GOP flips back.
- Very Difficult Targets: (Many solidly Republican states)
- Tennessee (Hagerty-R)
- Alaska (Murkowski-R historically, depends on dynamics)
- North Carolina (Tillis-R)
- Iowa (Grassley-R seat potentially)
- Texas (Cruz-R)
- Kentucky (Paul-R)
- And many others similar to the 2026 list (SC, AL, MS, WY, ID, NE, SD, KS, WV, OK).
- Highly Competitive Targets:
It’s going to take an absolutely historic level of pain to both drive enough people to vote MAGA out to make this change though.
The amount that’s being excused, sanewashed, and just drowned out with other absurdities…
We’re on all on this shit ride until some new wildcard comes into play.
No impeachment, no Supreme Court, no guardrail is going to change that.
Something new and unaccounted for is the only feasible catalyst.
“Kamala isn’t vocal enough in supporting Palestine” was a big one.
No. It was “Kamala actively supports Israel”. If Democrats are going to continue trying to rewrite history to deny their role in genocide, they deserve Trump for a dozen terms
Perhaps Democrat leadership deserves something or other but the country and the world doesn’t deserve this.
The Democrat party supporters deserve it to, but indeed the rest of the country and world don’t. They didn’t deserve the Democrats either though.
- Class 1 Seats (Up in 2026):
Or maybe some third option?
…Because even now, before the primary we are locked into Waltz or trump?, is that right, smart guy?
What are you going to do about it if the DNC does their thing again?
I draw the line at genocide. I dont vote for anyone who does it or supports it. So that will limit my choices in participating, voting, or donating. I dont want to tell other people what to do, but if everyone adopted this rule we wouldn’t be in this mess and the dems would have run someone better because they’d know they couldnt win otherwise. But they’ll keep trying to shove a zionist down our throats because we let them.
We’re locked into whatever the system permits.
We make more choices than we think we do. They gather polling data on what we will support and how scared we are, and they act on it.
Not just a right, “an absolute fundamental necessity.”
I’d love to see him run, and I hope he gets a meaningful debate in before the DNC stacks the deck for Newsom
No more support for zionists. Waltz is a zionist.
Ah, so you only care if one group gets genocide. Everyone else can get fucked, right?
No, we should strive for a candidate who is against all genocide. Let’s not compromise in advance.
And who would that be?
What a sad question when you remove the snark from it.
Like honestly, the reality behind that is just sad.
You have a myopia that makes you incapable of looking past a single election. It is that myopia that has gotten us to this point here. Cycle after cycle of blind, zero-thought “blue no matter who” has made the democratic power-brokers completely disconnected from the base. You’re going to vote for them no matter what, so your opinions, thoughts, and desires are absolutely irrelevant. You do not matter to the political process at all.
Outside of all that garbage, who would you choose as a perfect American politician that would take a hard stance against Israel? Has to be a real person and has to be an American politician, no pipe dreams.
I’m not American (but we do get a lot of US Pol foisted on us), so forgive me if I’m missing something… I thought the US democratic party was basically everyone more left wing than Joe Manchin. There are ‘third parties’, but in general the broad church argument applies… Anyway aren’t USians able to actually pick the candidates that stand for those parties? So wouldn’t you use the generals to vote ‘against’ Republicans, but then use the primaries process to vote for the shape of D you wanted? Here that’s not an option, the party puts up candidates. But you have the ability to pressure the candidates even after they are elected. Might be a long shot, but is inherently less fatalistic than just giving up, or even (as seems disturbingly popular these days) calling for some form of civil war.
If they don’t care about brown people in the Middle East, they don’t care about you. Y’all’s inability to understand this got you Trump, so don’t repeat that mistake. Fascism abroad tends to be the preamble to fascism at home.
We got trump because people like I ke you stayed home.
I struggle to see how proto-fascism now devolving into better-prepared fascism four years later would’ve been better than fascism now. And don’t give me the “it gives us time to resist” spiel because we both know that’s not how that ever worked; time to prepare only benefits the far right.
So what’s your solution? Just keep fucking losing?
No, stop following the neoliberals while they snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. I still remember the “progressive” reaction to Uncommitted and to calls for Biden to step down. If you’re not willing to coerce the DNC neoliberals into doing what you want, you’ll always be stuck doing what they want. And do you know what they want? Proto-fascism with rainbows and glitter.
We got Trump because people like you thought supporting genocide was more important than winning the election
I am sure the people being sent to death camps are very grateful.
No point in arguing, the box is empty.
You lot considered continuing to operate the world’s largest death camp to be more important than stopping Trump.
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Now it’s time for sternly worded protests.
I was chastised by a random person at my local protest for joining in a chant of “Fuck Donald Trump”.
Many of these people are still so attached to the idea of civility politics that they don’t even want anyone to curse.
I don’t think one governor can call for a civil war yet. Not enough support from even the democratic voters.
It’s time to start putting your state police to work finding more terrorists.
Tim Walz has strongly worded his disdain for strongly worded letters.
AOC and Bernie were pouring sweat and blood into anti-Oligarchy tour while Tim did exactly what? What did he lay out as a functional plan? More messaging? So more “strongly worded letters”? Situation calls for direct action.
I’m not a Minnesota resident, but it sure looks like he’s taking direct and local action as the governor of Minnesota. The guy seems to have done a lot of good work for his constituents. As a governor, that’s really the most effective action he can take right now.
In the past, yes he has shown some spine for action but in today’s environment having him and Harris “invisible” until now projects a very weak position. The only Democrats that remained active and visible and “in your face” were AOC and Bernie. Rest of them seem to have evaporated. I’d love to be proved wrong. So, how many public gatherings did he address and outlined strategy for applying pressure on current Federal administration? How many times did he stand up and mobilized others to stand up to present onslaught of lawlessness streaming from DC? I get it, he’s Mi governor, but he also aimed for VP chair so one would expect him to act at “above state” level.
he also aimed for VP chair so one would expect him to act at “above state” level.
Nope, one would expect him to do the job he was elected to do. And he is.
We have way too many politicians already talking instead of acting. Working to alleviate real problems in Minnesota is way more effective, even on a nationwide level, than just talking.
But he’s also talking!
how many public gatherings did he address and outlined strategy for applying pressure on current Federal administration?
AOC and Bernie poured sweat and blood into strongly worded admonishments.
I guess you want to see our elected Representatives seizing and holding territory with guns and grenades in order to be satisfied.
Actually? I’d love to see Bernie Sanders just show up full Rambo style, guns blazing, totally losing his shit.
But also, I’ve abandoned the concept that this country will ever run smoothly, peacefully, and without corruption.
So at this point I’m ok with letting the country burn that was founded on slavery and racism, but hasn’t learned anything since.
that was founded on slavery and racism,
And genocide, don’t forget the genocide.
And people around me think less of me for not being patriotic.
America is my home, and it’s also a dumpster fire. Always has been.
I want to ask, in earnest, if you mean you’re not nationalist? Patriot gets thrown around a lot these days, but what most people really mean is nationalism. I love my country, but I hate what it’s become. I hate the people in power who are ruining this great country. I hate the conservatives who are trashing everything with their racism and toxicity. I hate the liberals who are just as bad as conservatives because neither side can do the right thing (granted, the left are slightly better than the right).
And no, this is not a “bOTh SiDeS” issue. So you can burn that straw man down right now.
Patriotism is nationalism and it’s a toxic impulse. Borders are fake and division fuels bigotry.
No. Two different words with two vastly different meanings.
Making up your own definitions to fit your agenda is exactly what the conservatives do. Don’t be a conservative.
Democrats aren’t leftist, they are also a Conservative Party.
This is part of the problem! There are so many different (and stupid) words to describe one side of a political party. We should make a new one called the Not Assholes party that encompasses those of us who just want a working democracy that doesn’t favor aristocracy, oligarchy, or any other non democratic -cracy/-archy.
Or whatever; I really don’t know. I’m stupid and this shit is way too over complicated for my stupid brain to comprehend. 😩
It would definitely be a change from the talking they always do.
It’s boring.
AOC and Bernie were directly interacting with people all this time explaining and making them ready: AKA acting; Walz was largely absent all this time.
thank you
direct action does not equal guns and grenades. Please educate yourself on what direct action really means.
It includes them as options. Ideally last resort. But not never.
Why don’t you educate them on what the meaning is?
AOC and Bernie spent the last few months telling people to vote and call their representatives; they can’t be much better than Walz.
