The shitty press enabled this. Let them fall on their own sword.
And they’ll bend the knee. Throw some scapegoat under the bus, because this is the new Fascist America.
You chose this, America. Now no one will save us.
That’s how many lawsuits against the press so far?
Something something free market
I can’t believe I’m living though my country’s Nazi era. History will not be kind to us. I hate all of this. My sister voted for this and I’ll never forgive her.
My entire damned family voted for it… even my closest sibling who had never voted republican in her life… that other side indoctrinated hard… I’m so disgusted, and she even said “I’m so sad ice picked up one of my favorite co-workers!” “And you voted for that” apparently wasn’t the comfort she was seeking.
I mean… these people are ignorant as shit.
Too fucking true… just hurts to see it close by. I know she’s smart… she’s just, well indoctrinated… that cult is a hell of a drug
It’s about this app: https://www.iceblock.app/. Download it, use it.
Why TF has this topic been around for hours and has no one posted this? Why is the drama again made more important than the substance? Don’t let the hysteria win.
Oh cool, a president threatening to prosecute the press for reporting on something factually correct. Cool cool cool.
Who’s going to do it?
How does this make any sense?
Shouldn’t they be suing Apple to take it down if they don’t like it? I know they just want to weaken press, but it feels like an especially weak excuse.
Well, exactly. Trump apparently has a line to Apple and could probably get Tim to take it down.
Eh. Trump is publicly weighing the idea of deporting Musk. He’ll turn on anyone, no matter the previous displays of loyalty.
This does seem aimed at CNN, in particular, imho.
Didn’t Elon turn on Trump by criticizing his budget?
I’m not sure what started it exactly, but yes, those two had a big public falling out. During which, Elon criticized the budget bill.
Daily reminder to all ICE agents. By signing up for ICE, you have signed yourself up for a lifetime of fear and criminal liability. There are Nazi concentration camp guards that were tried for their crimes in their 90s. There is no statute of limitations on crimes against humanity. Your names are recorded; your deeds are known. And you will face justice for your crimes. And do not count on a blanket pardon saving you. Crimes against humanity are violations of international law that cannot be pardoned.
They should also remember that murder peaked immediately post WWII in Europe as people got even with their Nazi tormenters.
They will complain that women won’t want to date them, but they also get to live in fear that the women who will date them are secretly planning to [redacted] them like O-Ren Ishii.
Your optimism can only be admired. However the US has already stated multiple times that it doesn’t care about international law and that Americans cannot be tried for war crimes and crimes against humanity, or they will invade the Netherlands. The ICC cannot even detain an American. This was during W Bush and his “war on terror”.
And then Trump recently reiterated it with a new executive order, imposing penalties and visa restrictions on people even helping the ICC to investigate Americans.
Good God I hope they are held accountable for their crimes
So many ice agents here on Lemmy
Yes, obviously, but these type of comments are self-defeating and unhelpful. It’s more about trying to encourage the circulation of the idea that ICE needs to face criminal accountability. There should be a paragraph on ICE’s potential criminal liability in every article about them. People should mention their susceptibility to prosecution on every discussion about them. We should be including the topic of prosecutions in every casual conversation about ICE.
The right wing learned a long time ago that the public narrative matters. If there’s an idea worth spreading, then spread it. We need to get the idea of accountability in the public consciousness whenever possible. Otherwise, it’s the default instinct of every Democratic politician to try to be magnanimous when they’re elected. Liberals are by their nature non-confrontational; they’re happy to have people walk all over them. Obama and Biden both refused to prosecute the previous administration and tried to be grand peace makers, and look how that turned out. It will take a lot of public pressure if there’s ever going to be any accountability. That’s why we need to be circulating these ideas in the Zeitgeist. Yes, obviously this is just lemmy, but there’s no need to be such an unhelpful cynic.
Thank you. I am fully on board and you’re 100% speaking my language.
I’m a cynic because I want people to get pissed off. At least pissed off people might do something.
The left is sleeping on actually utilizing the Internet for spreading ideas. They need to stop showing up in the street and start actually producing content.
Like I just checked out Joe Rogan sub Reddit to see people shitting on him and found stuff like this. It’s funny and honestly gets so much attention even though it’s stupid. Where the fuck is this stuff on Lemmy. Are we just here to passively read articles and yell how we’re going to punch a Nazi and then not even bother to fight Nazi shit online?
Yeah, whenever i see someone here saying that we need to resort to violence, my immediate thought is always, “Ok tough guy, where’s your truck bomb?”
I do more IRL resistance work than at least 95% of the people on this site. And I’m not even talking protests. I’m directly, on the ground, working to help some of the people most hurt by the regime’s policies. I’m not into violence, but I’m not above disobeying unjust laws either. So it’s not like I’m some online slactavist that refuses to lift a finger to actually help people. The kind of work I do is the kind of thing I can’t even post about on social media.
But it is an incredible shame how the right has taken over so many online spaces. 10-15 years ago, the left more dominated online spaces. The early internet was a mix of very libertarian and progressive. Hell the internet was built from the ground up on socialist principles. But it’s the right that really learned how to use the net most effectively as a means of mass communication and propaganda. And they did so quite deliberately. There was a deliberate and organized campaign among white supremacists on places like stormfront to subtly move their message to the mainstream.
I think those on the left tend to view things from way too scholarly a perspective. Why repeat the same message if you’ve already written extensively about it before? Or make sure to not post simple understandable messages; instead start with a dozen qualifiers and provisos that end up watering down your whole message. It’s more important to be intellectually rigorous than it is to effectively communicate your values. Or there’s the tendency for purity tests that end up shoving away otherwise eager allies.
The right meanwhile has learned that even bold faced lies can become widely accepted if you simply repeat them loudly and often enough.
Point them out
It’s hard to identify them because they wear masks when they’re on here
Noem told reporters alongside Trump on July 1 as they toured a new detention center in the Florida Everglades known as
“Alligator Alcatraz.”“Alligator Auschwitz.”That’s the correct name.
This needs to stick.
It’s got like 24 hrs left.
Do we know yet that it’s an extermination camp? Because it’s not like it’s the first modern concentration camp in the US. We’ve just been calling them detention centers.
Auschwitz started as “just a concentration camp” too.
Eventually countries will stop accepting our deportees and then what will they do? The answer is simple:
They’ll come up with a final solution.
Right, but why is this concentration camp deserving of comparison to Auschwitz? We already have several.
Because alligator alliterates with Auschwitz.
I saw a good Dachau-pun name for it, but it might have been so morbid I blocked it out, because I can’t remember what it was
The United States provides the best historical reenactment of Nazi Germany ever. Living history in action folks!
Just wait until they add the bonus Great Depression reenactment!
So, are the democrats and the American people, and all our public institutions, and private industry just going to sit around and let these fascist losers ruin everything, forever? Is that the plan? It really looks like that’s the plan right now.
No one is broadcasting the revolution. Throw sugar in ICE gas tanks, cut the power to Heritage Foundation offices, and shut the fuck up about it.
You probably should delete this.
Don’t be a bitch
True revolutionaries buy Sabian anyways
the internet does not work that way
It makes more sense when you fully understand what people mean when they say both sides.
People who want to argue that point take it to mean “both sides are the same”. What it really means is both sides are complicit. It’s good cop bad cop. The good cop has to keep up appearances, to sell the illusion of choice and safety. While the bad cop takes all the heat.
And if you want evidence, just look at how things have gone in the last 40 years. Republicans take 3 steps right, democrats take 1 step left. Well, do the math. That’s a net result of 2 steps to the right without recoarse. Now repeat for 40 years, and you have a situation where it’s literally gotten to nazi america tactics.
The old barometer for how far they’ve gone is when they undid roe v wade. Now, thats so far in the rear view, that we’re at a point where unidentified government agents are kidnapping people on the street, without even confirming they have reason to arrest them, and at times killing them in the process.
Let me repeat that. We’re at a point where government officials are now grabbing people off the street and killing them, without so much as a confirmation of their identity.
But don’t worry, the democrats are going to wave their fingers in a “no no no” motion, real hard. We’ll all be fiiiiiiine! Well, unless of coarse you’re brown enough, or just mistaken for an opposing opinion.
Yeah. Both sides.
There is still gay marriage in this country, and abortion was legal for 30 years. Very, very recently we have taken several steps to the right. Things have become much more open socially.
and abortion was legal for 30 years
50
When will the madness end?
He has gone full dictator.
That’s like saying they’ll be charged with murder, for reporting on murder. These fucking halfwits are just so unbelievably stupid.
Stupid? They’re achieving exactly what they set out to achieve. The fact that they’re doing it while saying illogical things doesn’t change that.
