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Man this comic is dumb as hell.
Man, there are some really dorky people here I on Lemmy. I laughed, and I think it’s a silly and funny comic.
I guess now I’m a bad person or something? What a weird reaction people had here…
what is emoassjeans on sagging black mans
Breasts are not the same as genetalia.
Go stare at a woman’s breasts and tell her that.
This is the type of equality I can get behind!
🫸 Focus, Conan 🫷
I’ve never really understood this sort of comparison. Boobs are a secondary sexual characteristic whereas the genitals are a primary one. Men have more sexual characteristics than just their dicks and can literally do chest cleavage too, like a loose open button down shirt. Plenty of women go crazy for that. We just don’t societally obsess over or police it like we do women’s bodies/breasts.
I wear these barely buttoned Hawaiian shirts all the time and it makes me feel hot af
That’s strange, I’d think the extra ventilation would help you to be cool.
They both ellicit the same hormonal response regardless of if it’s “secondary.” You could dampen that response by normalizing women being topless, but you could also normalize complete nudism and achieve the same thing for primary sexual characteristics…
It’s just a subjective line we draw. It could be my sexual trauma speaking but I’d personally rather we make the line even between sexes than move it down.
Not sure if you’re using a speech-to-text thing that chose the wrong homophone but “illicit” and “elicit” have different meanings. If something is illicit, it’s against the rules. Something elicited is brought forth.
I associate “illicit” with “illegal” and “elicit” with “evoke” and, even if it’s not an exact match for both meanings, it’s close enough to get to the right one.
Oh lol my bad. I thought they were spelled the same, and autocorrect didn’t mark it.
Yeah, maybe this comic isn’t the same, but my problem with the “my eyes are up here” thing is that men and women alike know that breasts are a turn on for some people and yet they wear a shirt/skirt exposing them and then get angry when the people attracted to them are caught looking. If you don’t want men/women looking at your breasts - then maybe don’t expose them.
Na. It is impolite to stare. That’s not news. Doesn’t matter what the other person is or isn’t wearing. The one doing the behavior is responsible for their actions.
You can exploit this to make people bump into walls.
Just make sure they don’t have anywhere to look, except your breasts 😈
Well yea, I don’t think anyone is defending staring. They’re just pointing out the hypocrisy of the few who will do both the, “my eyes are up here” thing to glances and happily wear clothes that show off cleavage and/or curves.
While most individuals understand the mixed results of attraction, there are both hypocrites and some weird sometimes contradictory social norms that say it’s a problem.
“They were dressed all sexy like” isn’t an adequate justification for acting like a lecher. And we shouldn’t normalize it being so.
No one is defending lechery. IMO it should be obvious that people should be allowed to be sexy whilst not implying any level of consent. To think otherwise is to not understand consent in the first place.
Although it should also be obvious that if you wear something out in public, you’re consenting to being viewed in what ever you’re wearing, too. Not that anyone should be staring or snapping pics, either. That’s impolite at best and probably some level of harassment too.
There are obvious boundaries both on what someone has to accept and what someone doesn’t have to accept.
I think it’s giving entirely too much credit to a commenter trying to justify being called out for staring.
Yeah, some people will overreact. That doesn’t mean you have to take it personally. I think the original commenter has skin that’s too thin and got hurt because someone told them they were doing something that made that person uncomfortable.
Just like people should understand that they’re going to be viewed by others in public, people should also understand that not everyone is going to react in the specific manner you want them to in all circumstances. If they got told off, as it were, get over it and move on. Don’t take it as a deep-seated societal problem they must rail against.
It’s not hypocrisy to act with emotion, it is however hypocrisy to criticize someone for acting emotionally when you defend your actions as emotional in nature.
In my opinion, if someone feels it’s impolite to stare, then to someone else it’s impolite to expose. It’s one of the most passive-agressive things to do, being angry at someone who stares when the exposure is intentional.
There’s a specific difference between staring and taking an admiring glance. The former is generally associated with objectification, the latter a shared appreciation. Knowing where that line is makes the difference.
This whole thread is terrifyingly neurotypical. Simply look them dead in the eyes for an entire conversation.
A good chunk of the population is very challenged by such delicate social distinctions. Like upwards of a third. And even among the rest, everyone’s going to draw the line differently. These bright line rules you believe in don’t exist for most people.
Someone can have an attractive face, it’s still impolite to stare. You’re literally advocating that women wear burqas. Logically, if women don’t want to have their faces stared at by creepy men, they should have to cover their faces up.
Just because someone exposes a part of their body doesn’t give you permission to stare at it. It’s impolite to stare at someone’s face, at exposed tattoos, or exposed cleavage. Really it’s simply impolite to stare at anyone’s body.
Otherwise, I hope a really aggressive bear of a gay man joins your workplace and starts obsessively staring at you. If you don’t want him staring at your face obsessively all day, you can simply wear a mask.
And plenty of people would be offended that you chose this imagery as offensive.
As a straight guy with gay friends, I considered myself finally accepting (or maybe desperate) when I could take the attention of a gay guy as a compliment and be kind about redirecting them
Agreed. There’s a big difference between looking at and staring at. You can look at or glance briefly as long as you aren’t being a creep, both sides do it. The problem is when people stare or act creepy.
I mean its simple biology. If the shirts are low cut or tight or whatever it draws the eyes. Whether thats the result that was intended or not. Only way to fix it is have everyone be asexual or desexualize a woman’s chest. That would require a societal change.
I am calling bullshit here. This statement is true but the initial commentary is simply bullshit.
So just to be clear you police your friends doing that to men right? I get that shit a lot and they never seem to. Not ever (OK maybe a few but only the unattractive ones like being attractive gives someone an all access pass to being hyper sexual oggling asshats) Not at any public place basically where young women are.
Now im not a typically sexual person, I don’t stare (cause I don’t care about that shit) and I don’t like playing ‘The Game’. And yet. It is crazy persistent now like everywhere. Like you look too much for it to be polite at all. Then look away and talk with friends while side eyeing me. Im looking cause I trained myself to pay attention to the people paying attention to me. Im not smiling at them or ‘sending signals’ not anything just noticing people looking. And im not muting that (and turning my ‘saftey’ off) so they can do all the mating ritual bullshit with me cause they like my eyes or some shit.
Then they look extra. Then look away for a bit pretending they aren’t focused on that shit like some “im not that interested haha but you better not be ignoring me” bs. Then theyre looking fucking MORE and all under the pretense of “sending signals” just like the creep men that are (justifiably) getting flack for that same shit. (I understand the patriarchy and undertones of shit) and I don’t need to express rage or something else (not my job for one, nor is it my prerogative to exhaust my social battery or just having to experience shit emotions so they get there’s basic curtsey that they are ignoring, cause how tf are they gonna take it? Not the way they should I can promise that, and if you say something? They twist shit up to avoid embarrassment or strait up lie or apologize in a way that leaves me exhausted with the bullshit of it being needed to begin (benign or not). Just like asshole men have done forever and are now being condemned for in every media form i see but for some reason they get a pass even though they should know better then most) its something so pointless but to every fucking person that does it over and over and you get upset or irritated about it and they defend their pride by looking at you like you just became a sex offender or danger in their eyes cause “who doesnt want that kind of attention from me” looks/talkback cause you don’t like “The Game” is horseshit and it is the same shameless shit that toxic dudes tell themselves when they do it and is what this entire comic is based around and yet your defending the secondary sexual trait argument instead of seeking to see the nuances of what’s being said?
Fuck off with that shit. Youre barely even right here. Cause women can be just as cowardly and baselessly sexual “if you dont want me to stare don’t show it off” as anybody
In fact they are MORE so in many places now because of this kind of ritualistic excusing of/encouraging of the behavior by their peers without the checks of the anti-male-chauvinist movement (which as a whole I like)
Secondary characteristics. MY ASS is a secondary characteristic and yet your asses drool over it like you just accomplished something anywhere I fucking happen to be.
I don’t see you starring at them correctingly (and with a sense of kindred understanding of it being bad behavior) like we do with men doing that clearly unwanted bullshit, even tho they’re friends or coworkers or family or whatever. Cause I deserve it or smthg for old people being pervs in the past? Cause you dont want to see yourself in the same light as men? Fuck you for that thanks. Rant over. But the point stands.
Are you okay?
Obviously not right that minute, but people go off about it and go about their day with thoughts expressed and position organized and its better after (not like you actually give a shit of course)
Like literally every single other person
But hey I do hope you like it, your cowardly, passive aggressive, dismissive and (likely) infantilizing bullshit is exactly why this sort of commentary is necessary today. So get with the shame lady (or man i suppose 🤷)
Thanks for being a prime example of whats wrong with shit at the current societal junction though 👍
It helps me feel vindicated about this already ngl 😄
So, no, not even a little. It’s okay, you can work your shit out screaming into the void in my direction - I’ve got thick skin.
(I’m kidding, your ass is about to be blocked. Have a nice life.)
Mhmm, tick tock on that clock, this bullshit has got a limited lifespan, no one cares about your circus but your clown ass and others like you
Good luck being not a dopey coward about it when your granddaughter is embarrassed of your fake ass life lady✌
I am sexually attracted to covered breasts. Your argument is invalid.
“If there are big boobs to be found I will find them no matter what” -Ranta from Grimgar
yep this is why you should never be bare foot around the opposite sex its just inviting weird behavior fuck off with this sexist its their fault shit.
Hmm I’d say the comic could use also that - a pumped up guy with big chest, wearing an exposing shirt and then being angry at people staring at his chest
This is one of my all time favorite comics. The looks on their faces are just perfect.
This is one of my all time favorite comics
reddit moment :/
angrily stares at breasts
angrily unzips pants
Ten hour YouTube rant about HR taking our freedom
I cringe whenever I come to the comment sections of these kinds of comics.
I laugh my ass off at the people who defend the comics. I piss myself laughing at people like you.
good thing I’m taking my post new year dump.
Sighs tiredly.
I don’t like blocking. I appreciate a good shitpost or argument. I like seeing all the denizens of the Fediverse, in its entirety (not that I’m upstanding or anything). I have like 5K comments, apparently, amongst no telling how many tankie threads and AI psycosis posts and rants and toxic spirals. And worse.
But I had a high school friend that made comments almost exactly like this, who’d only say it’s a joke (or shitpost) if called out. He just so happened to treat girlfriends like meat.
What’s the point in engaging with that? It’s not interesting.
So here’s my first user block on Lemmy.
Maybe I’m just over-reacting in a weird moment. Anyway, have a good new year, GreenKnight23.
Maybe I’m just over-reacting in a weird moment.
you are. it’s a block list, not a fucking wedding registry. you’re not my first, won’t be my last.
I mean, as a bald man I no longer need to answer the question “does the carpet match the drapes?”. Solving problems, the best way.
Unless you also wax the floor
Thank your lord that isn’t a thing.
I could dig it, I support equality and fashion liberation. My ideal world would normalize men wearing dresses and women wearing big orbital rings, which are lame.
For the record, I want equality too. But, I don’t want either gender showing off cleavage of any kind at the office.
For the record I too want equality but I want both Genders to go strictly naked to the office.
Depends on what the job is, I guess
Welding.
Ski instructor
Fair and respectable.
Yet!
Clearly never been to a gay bar
Granted it’s been many years, but even when I had bar yo gay bars this was not a thing. And even if it were, I wouldn’t care. I just don’t want it (or boob cleavage) in the work place.
It’s not a thing even at gay bars. Could you imagine? lol I know we’re known for our sexual culture, but we do have boundaries.
Oh your god! I’m so embarrassed, I wish everyone else was dead!
what??
Hmm. He’s trying to make some kind of point, but only succeeds in making himself look like a jackass. There’s a lot of that going around.
QED
Glad to see we all still hate each other for existing inside our anatomy. That’s what this comment is about, right? Hating women for having tits and hating men for having cocks? We still hate each other for those reasons, right?
Yep. I’m hated for my constant coughing, why should I tolerate anyone else. Fuck everyone who exists and is human, become a furry.
