This will be changed after Trump is removed.
THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNTIED STATES IS CALLING FOR LAWMAKERS TO BE EXECUTED FOR UPHOLDING THE LAW! WTF IS GOING TO BE DONE ABOUT THIS SHIT?
Following the double negative rule: Anti Anti Fascists leaves you with
Fascists
The USA is dropping the mask for all the world to see.
AND STILL PEOPLE ARE ACTING LIKE EVERYTHING IS NORMAL! AT THIS POINT I WANT TO SEE MASS PANIC SO I KNOW I’M NOT CRAZY! AND I’M IN CANADA, I WANT MASS PANIC IN CANADA! I AT LEAST WANT THIS SHIT TAKEN SERIOUSLY ENOUGH THAT CANADIANS STOP FUCKING GOING TO THE STATES AS IF EVERYTHING IS NORMAL!
Honestly, I understand why my parents aren’t even panicking, the country we lived in before coming to the US, also had random arbitary policy changes, so… this just feels normal to them, authoritarianism is normal to them.
AND STILL PEOPLE ARE ACTING LIKE EVERYTHING IS NORMAL!
Nope, we’rs not. But I, like many people, am in a marginalized/bum-fuck town. So, my opinion doesn’t matter until the polls open. We voted against this evil, and we will again. But, our government wants to embrace the evil.
We can see it wants to. We don’t want it to. But, most of us don’t matter to the government. We’re not big-dollar donors, so our politicians will ignore us. They’ve minimalized most people so all that we can do is vote against it.
But, with where the Overton window is, we have one party running with regular evil while the other suggests a diet version of evil.
I AT LEAST WANT THIS SHIT TAKEN SERIOUSLY ENOUGH THAT CANADIANS STOP FUCKING GOING TO THE STATES
With how dried up tourism is, it would seem like they’re already doing it. Yet, the government is still going down this path. So, it’s not that big of an impact.
It would be nice if Canadians would also stop voting for politicians who lead Canada in the same direction as the USA. We need to turn left, not right.
I wish Canadians would realise they are voting for the same policies, but all the newspapers are owned by a Republican American, and they dont know.
Good! MORE Swastikas LESS Rainbows!
-NOT Nazis!
Combine this policy with declaring anti-fascists as terrorists, and I think a pattern is emerging here.
What IS a fucking hate symbol then???
Until I see it from an alternate source, I’m calling bullshit on this one. It sounds like bullshit.
A peace sign
Soon the peace gesture with your 2 fingers will be considered an ANTIFA symbol and warrant immediate deportation.
The Mexican flag, probably.
LGBTQ and trans flags
The American flag.
Flown properly, the American flag can be,
That is the farthest thing from a hate symbol you could find.
An upside down national flag is a sign of distress which means you care enough about your nation to consider the current moment as an aboration from the norm.
I don’t know if the swastikas adorning the flag are meant as a sign of respect though
No they’re intentional disrespect implying the us is in distress because of nazi-esk authoritarianism and xenophobia.
I don’t know if the stand up sign in front is a response, or they are meant to be shown jointly. But either way, you’re right. Have to care about a place to admit when it’s in distress, which we currently are.
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According to these Nazis.
I think I was trying to suggest something about the duality of man, sir.
Trump’s dream of Nazi America is taking shape.
Ah, a potentially divisive hand gesture, inscrutable, controversial and puzzling. What on Earth could it mean?
He’s just really happy to be here
Instead, the Coast Guard will classify the Nazi-era insignia as ‘potentially divisive’ under its new guidelines. The new policy, set to take effect Dec. 15, similarly downgrades the definition of nooses and the Confederate flag
Threatening racial lynchings is “potentially divisive” but not hateful, apparently. I guess there are very fine people on both sides of the white supremacist lynchings debate.
The symbol predates the Nazis coopting of it by a few thousand years. Used to mean peace forever or something. Only became the symbol of fascism because the Nazis misappropriated it
Pre-WW2 use of the swastika: all good.
Post-WW2 use of the swastika, specifically in the context of this discussion (for armed service members in the western world): very, very not good.
The swastika does stand for a symbol of peace when it leans in the counter-clockwise position. But, the Nazi swastika is backwards. Thus, it is inherently a symbol of hate.
Its fair for the wrong reasons.
It’s fair because it is a peace symbol.
Its wrong because it is and will be used as a hate symbol.
yeah, that’s cool, but it’s for nazis now.
I don’t see why people are down voting this. It’s true, and doesn’t necessarily call for the return of the symbol in any way. The Nazis took a lot of symbols for themselves, but some of them will be forever associated with them now. Nobody can really save the sunwheel symbol at this point.
Some modern Pagan/Heathen religious movements might try to reclaim some symbols while being staunchly anti-nazi, but it’s hard for them to do that while people have little education other than “Nazis used this” and not knowing the history. I believe some of these symbols are beyond redemption at this point, especially the swastika, and it’s better to focus on those that have no Nazi ties or maybe ones that are so loose that they don’t really matter.
Cool, if any recruits can prove that they got their swastika tattoo prior to 1939, then it’s not a hate symbol. But still, don’t invite them in though, they can’t come in until invited.
Oh for a moment there I was beginning to doubt the direction of USA.
Well I guess it’s still full steam ahead to dismantle democracy and introduce an authoritarian dictatorship.Brief anecdote. In school, we used to draw swastikas on everything in order to get others in trouble or to make ourselves seem like assholes. At no point did we consider what we were doing ok, it was just kids riding the edge of something they couldn’t understand for the sake of ignominy. Even we, as ignorant as we were, recognized that the swastika was a hate symbol and thoroughly unacceptable, we were, again, just assholes.
I’ve been saying this quite a lot but this culture war bodes poorly.
On a similar tangent, I find hilarity in poorly drawn swastikas - or to use an entertaining but horrendously ablest term, a spastika.
I make no apology for equating the sort of dickhead that scrawls this shit everywhere in adult life with the sort of clueless fuckwit that tests sockets with a fork, and couldn’t pour water out of a boot even if the instructions were on the soles.
I don’t often like punching down on the lesser-intellectual folk (mainly because I’m dumb as rocks for 23 hours of the day myself) but this is one of the few times I enjoy the opportunity.
Damn been awhile since I’ve thought about a good old Hale Hortler. Thanks for reminding me that while I might be stupid I at least am better than these fuckwits.
How else are they going to hire people? Most guys that want to sign up are all tatted with these symbols.
I think I see this differently than most. I’m all for this. This would make it so much easier to know who to kick out during the next administration.
What next administration? How is that ever going to happen?
I know its a drama we’re past by now but I can’t help but think about the people who defended Platner with the line “the military would have stopped him if it was really a Nazi tattoo.” Because most of us knew that in fact they would not, and now they have put it in writing.
Platner said that the marines actually rejected his reenlistment for having
death’s headforearm tattoos (even though he says got it while in the marines and that it was a common tattoo for marines to have) so he had to join the army out desperation. He really was determined to go back over there and kill more brown people.Although reading it now it seems the marines rejected him for having visible tattoos on his arm.
Can you give a source on that or a general direction on where to look? I’ve heard about the tattoo and looked into it during the initial controversy and did not find that information at the time.
I must’ve misread. He actually says the marines rejected him for having visible tattoos on his arm, not the actual skull tattoo.
If you know about MARADMIN, can you elaborate on what he means? I looked it up and understand it as a kind of code of conduct, but don’t see what changed in 2007, just that he said a USMC based tattoo was what prevented him.
Sorry, that’s esoteric military gibberish shit. I have no idea.
Thanks anyway! Yeah military jargon and acronyms out the ass go hand in hand and any manager that’s a vet I’ve worked for just tosses them around like ‘sentence enhancers’.
But I thought he didn’t know what it was? So he thought they rejected his reenlistement because of a regular skull tattoo?
Sketchy af
He was in the Marines, they aren’t known for being particularly bright outside of maybe the specialists, NCOs, and COs. They ain’t called America’s greatest crayon eaters for nothing, but hey since the 80s or so theyve diversified their eating habits with MRE wrappers and chemical heaters.
I grew up round Vietnam era army mud boots, I will take any opportunity to bash the Marines.
