Come on stroke!

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    I dont think it would solve the overall issue the US has, tho it would be not the worst thing to happen

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    I want him to fall into the pits of hell, but before he does, his scorched, cheeto dust fingers breech the surface one last time to curl around Vance’s pant leg, dragging him down with him.

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      At least you wont die of a temper tantrum global nuclear war.

      Congrats, this “titanic” we’re on will now sink just a teeny tiny bit slower… (talking about climate-change denialism) 🫠

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        I reckon Vance has the potential to be a lot more volatile and cruel than Trump. Trump’s just a greedy, dumb arsehole that says whatever he thinks will make him a buck. Vance creeps me the fuck out, and his rich mates are no better.

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          Vance is smarter and more youthful than Trump. He’s backed by technocrats. I find him insufferable. I hope his base does too should he ever get his hands on the presidency because he has the potential to be more dangerous than Trump.

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            People say this but I really question what your standards of hitting bottom is. I also wonder just how much you’re following the court cases Donald is losing and how much they are holding the gate. Or what exactly congressional purse strings are being held

            Trump’s volatility is unpredictable and random because he is in decline. He has no loyalty. And he’s a giant blow hard

            He doesn’t show up to meetings he himself said he’s in and loses focus.

            the DOJ are facing losing their bar and bucking back at Donald now. Donald doesnt have to care cuz he’s circling the drain and trying to take everyone down with him.

            And Mike Johnson and Steve miller are absolutely trying to take advantage of Donald’s dementia.

            So please describe to me in detail how much worse Vance is going to be. Tell me your greatest fear and Vance’s strategy to punch through where a dementia riddled blow hard hasn’t been able to this past 4 months without facing the same risk of impeachment and/or held in contempt at every step.

            I mean the Dude balked at Greenland calling it too cold and looked completely confused on what he was supposed to do there to ‘take it over’… no one answered their door.

            And you’re scared of this guy?

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              Same way I’m scared of a toddler with a loaded gun. He might seem like a gormless twat now, but give him unfettered power, like Trump is setting him up for, and I reckon he’ll go completely mental.

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                HE ‘S LITERALLY SENDING PEOPLE TO DEATH CAMPS. children are literally starving to death. Did you not notice because the skin sent to the death camps was brown with tats?

                He’s been trying to reduce power of congress and take anyone off the streets regardless of citizenship to send to a gulag.

                This has been happening all well before TACO.

                You need to bring your standards up WAY higher than they are right now if this is all happening right under your nose and your just sitting there thinking he wasn’t already mental.

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          vance is also a lot younger

          is he gonna want to live in a bunker for the rest of his like? zero sunlight, cramped af living space?

          Dude is so uncharasmatic and useless and weird, if the US government went underdergound in a bunker, he’d get coup’ed by some general on the first night. he has no power if the country falls apart due to nukes.

          If nuclear war happens. The “leaders” of the countries are no longer leaders, each bunker would just become an independent state with their commander as a warlord.

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            And then you’ve gotta deal with ghouls and deathclaws and suchlike. It’s a bloody shambles!

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        I wouldn’t put it past any of them. They’re all psycho incompetent batshit crazy afaik

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    Despite these concerns, the White House physician, Captain Sean Barbabella, issued a clean bill of health in April, stating Trump “exhibits excellent cognitive and physical health.”

    Oh, right. The same people who covered up how close to death Reagan was after a pedophile shot him.

    “He’s a guy who’s subsisted off of McDonald’s and Kentucky Fried Chicken and well done steaks for a very long time,” he said. “He is not a healthy guy.”

    This is it for me. Well done steaks? Medium rare, ride or die. Let’s go!

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    Wait. You’re telling me that people in their late 70s early 80s don’t make for great presidents??

    No way. 😐

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        Some fare better than others. But anyone in the 70s to 80s is at such a higher risk of some event that takes them out of commission than usual and we have over 60 million people to look at, surely we don’t have to settle for people that have a risk of disrupting the office.

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          Bernie Sanders on his deathbed still makes a better president than whatever-the-fuck we got now. (As long as he doesn’t get a “Fetterman” stroke, even then, the Progressive, hopefully younger, VP can take over)

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            Joe Biden stepped down knowing he wouldn’t be able to service as president due to his health and age.

            Bernie Sanders on his deathbed most definitely would not make a better president than Trump because he’d be dying.

            What kind of ridiculous logic is that?

            I’m glad you don’t like Trump I don’t like Trump either but replacing him with another old white guy isn’t the solution.

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            I love Bernie. He’s a lovable dude. That seems to be the sole reason he keeps getting elected. He’s in his eighties, and despite all his lovely words and many, many years in politics, what actual tangible improvements to American life has he actually been instrumental in achieving? Because it looks pretty light on the ground to me. His time has probably passed.

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          It does though. And increasingly this will change with time such that human ages skew older, so I will remain flexible on that number when it comes to who I think is capable of holding various offices.

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            I remember a Ted Talk, and this was probably 15 years ago, where the presenter claimed that the first person to live to 200 was alive ‘right now’. There was no mention of what kind of person would need to cling to life above all else to be willing to undergo such treatments, and how much wealth and power they could accumulate in that time. I’m sure it’ll be fine.

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              For the parasitic idle rich, they typically set up foundations and the like to shelter their wealth for their descendants. Not sure it will be all that much different in the wealth accumulation. I’m sure there will be many, many broad societal changes if people start living a whole lot longer. No question about that.

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          But why though? If someone is still good at the job, there is no reason for them to take up shuffleboard and golf and retire, in my view. Not unless they want to.

          Also, I still contend all this pearl-clutching over the number of times someone has been around the sun will not age all that well, ironically.

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            Somewhere in between wasting away in a retirement home, and running one of the most heavily armed nations on Earth, there’s probably a happy medium to keep them occupied if they so desire. I know I wouldn’t want to still be working at that age. I can barely tolerate it now.

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    My hope is that he has a massive stroke live on TV and then ends up wheelchair-bound unable to speak without the help of a Stephen Hawking style talk box and then deteriorates over the next few months and off to the golf course with ya Donny.

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      I hope his head is removed from his shoulders by the gravitational force of the sharpened edge of a thin quadrangular sheet of metal, but to each their own I suppose.

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        Technically a guillotine blade is a trapezoid, if you’d like to be specific.

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          After posting this I was actually curious about the specific shape, and it’s a subset of trapezoid being a right trapezium.

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      I hope he soon dies a painful slow death for what he said about Bidens cancer diagnosis:

      If you feel sorry for him, don’t feel sorry for him, because he’s vicious.

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        I don’t really care enough anymore to actively wish any of those things on him. I just wish him gone from the Oval Office. The particulars are someone else’s problem.

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        Agreed! Whichever way he dies it need to be long and painful for him and enjoyable for us.

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        I could definitely see him being wheeled out onto the stage and with his robot voice say “the deep state did this to me!” And then he shits himself.

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          A robot voice would be great, then he could be muted. Hopefully he dies before mind uploads become a thing. If not, at least the storage costs would be low.

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      This scenario affords an opportunity for there to be a mausoleum, and therefore a shrine. I hope he spontaneously combusts just to scare the shit out of the nat-cs.

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        I think, regardless of how, or when he dies, there will be shrines and monuments built by his supporters in much the same way as a cult. I can also see it turning out like Jamestown where his supporters drink the Kool-Aid and also I can see a Dalai Lama situation where his supporters believe his soul has inhabited The body of the new leader, thus opening the doors for a wave of new grifter and liars to control the new Trump cult.

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          Honestly, I think if he dies, most of his cult of personality dies with him. I bet many pull a Bush -> teabagger routine again and pretend they didn’t really like that washed-up game show host that much anyway, since he wasn’t a True Conservative ™. Remember, conservatism can never fail, it can only be failed by people improperly living up to True Conservatism ™.

          So, no matter how many blatant failures of conservatism you can point to, the cons will always have an out, such as not doing it hard enough, or that they were foiled by those nasty Democrats, uppity POC, outspoken women, devious liberals, the Deep State, or whatever other bullshit you care to name.

          They’ll still be cons, though, and they’ll seek the next hit of China White. They won’t settle for a Ronnie Raygun or a Bush, they’ll want to up the ante and have someone who “says what I’m thinking” - most especially if what is being verbalized are some of the darkest thoughts at the root of the Republican movement. So I’m thinking they will wait for an even bigger asshole than donnie and then pretend they never had all that donvict gear on their person, their car, their house…EXACTLY like they did for Dumbya.

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          I don’t disagree that regardless of a physical burial site his cult will have their ‘pilgrimage’ sites. I do want to just point out that current sentiment is not everyone in Jonestown (not Jamestown) voluntarily drank the Flavor Aid. The whole story is harrowing, even more so when you put it into the context of the time period it took place in.

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            If you listen to the tapes (which, totally understandable to not) - there was a woman (iirc) who argued pretty vociferously against Jim Jones plan. They had killed a U.S. congressman at that point - the idea was that they were doomed anyway. But people did argue against him.

            Another aspect is that they had started the suicide drills long before they had even moved to Guyana. They had church services in California where they were told to drink what they were taught was poison.

            People who didn’t drink the Flavorade were shot. You don’t need everyone to go along with it - you just need a handful of the people who are willing to take quick, immediate action.

            The recent Behind the Bastards episode about Kevin Smith (not the director of Dogma but a Jamaican Pentecostal preacher) makes this pretty clear - there’s these fucked up dynamics which make certain people more willing to act, and others less so.

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              Yeah, I didn’t want to get too deep in the weeds, but it’s so much more complex thank ‘drink the kool-aid’. I’ve listened to the 40+ minute tape as well, and linked a well written Britannica article detailing these points as well as some important cultural impacts in my original comment.

              A large portion of his ‘congregation’ were Black Americans who were beaten down by the status quo at the time. I can’t blame them for grasping at hope that his de-segregated ‘church’ valued them for the people they were. As you said there were drills for this sort of thing before, so it’s impossible to say if the ones who initially volunteered for it were truly aware of what they were doing.

              I’m personally not a ‘Behind the Bastards’ person. I very much enjoy historical dark comedy; just not as a teacher. I’m more of a fan of ‘referential’ humour in that regard. If I’m trying to learn something I want it as honest and close to the source as possible.

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            I sure hope normal Americans construct their own pilgrimage sites that involve relieving themselves onto something donvict-related. Maybe a few urinals themed with some of the many unflattering photos/caricatures of him. None of that weirdly lit stuff for his supposed booking picture where he’s trying to look like a tough guy, either. I’m talking ones where captain combover has his hair in total disarray, or where his orange makeup is clearly contrasted with his normal white skin…

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          I hope all the younger men in the magazombie contingent are convinced to cut their own nuts off - before they breed.

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          Jesus Christ that response weighed heavy in my stomach, because all 3 of your scenarios seem equally likely, and possibly even all 3 at the same time as his followers splinter like the abrahamic religions.

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    Trump dying sounds good until you consider he’ll be replaced by JD Vance

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          Amazing. Assuming this is true, and he actually gets any, he can hit his son with “I came in your mom last night.”

          It may lead to billions in therapy bills, but thet kid is getting the closest thing to the 2006 public Halo game experience.

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          His son’s phone alert goes off with the camgirl tip noises

          dingdingdingdingding

          “DAD it’s CHRISTMAS EVE”

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          I’d have ruined that app as a teen and not even by telling the truth. I’d be getting pictures of me in empty parks on a carousel like, “3 head shots, 7 kills.”

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        I was curious how far down the line of succession you would have to go to find someone who would not be a catastrophically bad president. 11 positions down is the Secretary of Labor, Lori Chavez-DeRemer. She’s a Hispanic woman who was one of 6 Republican house members who signed a pledge to respect the results of the 2024 election, the only Republican cosponsor of a pro- union bill, and opposes a national Bank on abortion or IVF. Far from Ideal but light years better than the rest of the fascists on the list

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          It would be nigh impossible for that outcome though. If trump dies, Vance assumes the role but then selects a new VP. This new VP is now first in line and Johnson hasn’t moved up at all. It would take the synchronized deaths of all those others in line ahead of Lori Chavez-DeRemer for her to get the position. This is a known possibility so they generally keep people separated to some degree. That way if someone wants to plot a mass assassination to clear the line, it’s much more difficult. They couldn’t just try to bomb one building or something.

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            Normally I would never say a woman slept her way to the top, but this is Trump we are talking about. None of these people legitimately earned their cabinet positions.

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        just gather them all and let a single mortar shell loose

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          They’re referring to the succession in an emergency. After that i think is speaker pro tempore

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            Yeah, I think they are just pointing in the line of succession doesn’t do much if the VP was chosen by the president. We only made it 4 electiona before the 12th amendment was made and killed any hopes that the line of succession would be useful and Washingtons hopes that we wouldn’t become a 2 party system were completely dashed.

            Without the 12th Amendment I have no idea who would be president right now. Biden would have never been Vice President and such likely would have never been President. Harris the same. But the President would likely have an obstacle at all times in the Senate as the only way to get both the President and Vice President elected for the same “party” they would have to have 2 candidates beat 1 of another party, splitting the vote of their own party. In today’s media age, it would be really hard to have gotten that done.

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          If there is an opening in the VP spot, the President nominates a new VP. But that VP still has to be confirmed by both houses of Congress before he can be sworn in.

          The only way Johnson becomes president is if a) Trump dies, Vance nominates him, and Congress confirms it, or b) both Trump and Vance kick the bucket at the same time which automatically puts Johnson in the White House.

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      JD Vance doesn’t have the following or the charisma to pull off the nonsense Trump does. MAGA doesn’t work without Trump. Anytime MAGA has been in an election without Trump it fails pretty spectacularly.

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        Maybe, but if he inherits a full on police state, he might not need charisma or followers any more.

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          Doesn’t work. Even a police state needs a base of support in the populace or it doesn’t last long. The constant pressure of enforced conformity is too much for the system to endure.

          Also, under fascism, the second string guys are chosen for loyalty first and competence second. If the central guy dies, they fight amongst themselves and nobody wins.

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            Yeah… I’m reading this thread, and not thinking about his lack of charisma, but places like Pakistan where military coups follow.

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          Maybe, but I don’t think it will last. I think Trump has a better chance at getting a third term than JD has at getting a first term.

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        You only need a following and charisma to get elected, he would just be handed more power so that doesn’t matter.

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          Nah, you need the charisma to convince the people in congress to go along with your ideas. Trump has that kind of sway and power because of all the lackeys he put in place. I don’t think JD could hold the same influence over them.

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      I don’t want Trump to die. I want him just in the edge of mental degradation so there’s a constitutional crisis. GQP will hesitate to 24A him cause MAGA would revolt. It would be an extremely lame duck presidency.

      I want Trump to live long and quiet enough that he’s forgotten.

      I want him to survive a Cat-5 hurricane that destroys Mar-a-Lago.

      I want him to drool uncontrollably in a wheelchair while they take down his name down from buildings and golf resorts and turn them into shelters for the homeless and asylum seekers.

      I want all his sons turn into Viserys III Targaryen, paupers and laughing stocks that people entertain out of pity, not respect.

      I want him to live a long life in interesting times.

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        It would be an extremely lame duck presidency.

        It already is. Haven’t you seen him sign those executive orders and it’s immediately apparent he’s never seen or read it before that moment? He doesn’t have any clue what he’s going to sign before they put the paper in front of him.

        Trump is in the White House for two reasons- make himself richer and avoid prosecution for his crimes. Everything else that’s happening is being masterminded by someone else. Smart money is on Stephen Miller.

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          It’s one part Stephen Miller one part Heritage foundation.

          I believe it was Steve Bannon that previously referred to Trump as an “empty vessel.” These people promise him the chance to grift to his hearts content and they pour their agenda into him.

          His whole Biden auto pen thing is more fucking projection… He has very little idea what he is signing, he’s just signing off heritage foundation wishlists and going about his day shitting himself and yelling at people.

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        I think they’d Weekend at Bernie’s him to pass the worst legislation you’ve ever heard of.

        If it’s unpopular Trump gets the blame and he’s too incapacitated and impotent to lash out at them.

        Basically what Trump accused the Biden admin of doing.

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        Your ears you keep and I’ll tell you why. So that every shriek of every child at seeing your hideousness will be yours to cherish. Every babe that weeps at your approach, every woman who cries out, “Dear God! What is that thing,” will echo in your perfect ears. That is what “to the pain means.” It means I leave you in anguish, wallowing in freakish misery forever.

        That sounds delightful.

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        Oh so you want the actual autopen presidency to continue

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          Gtfo of here with stupid MAGA-speak and come back when you can formulate your own criticisms instead of just parroting this low effort ‘talking point’ shit you’ve been given

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            It’s not a low effort talking point given to anyone. I made the same comment in another section of the thread thinking it was somewhat original. If he’s mindlessly signing what is put in front of him then it’s no different than an automated signature by a mindless machine.

            The reference is to point out the hypocrisy of Republicans claiming Bidens use of auto pen meant he didn’t know about or care about what he was signing and was too unwell or careless to do it himself, and then we have Trump, albeit physically there signing the things, mentally checked out so he’s not doing anything particularly different than what crap the Republicans were saying before. Unless I’m misunderstanding it, it’s just a statement on Republican hypocrisy.

            I think it fits well.

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      JD Vance is garbage, buuut… he’s just another horrible GOP person, really. The thing that made people afraid to resist Trump was his cult-like base. They’ve tried multiple successors, and no one has even come close to capturing the same unconditional love of this racist moron by those pieces of shit as Trump. If we as a country have a final chance we don’t deserve, it’s Trump dying from his beloved “hamberders”…

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      “Trump is going to die any day now” is a thing people were posting in 2018. It’s a thing people were posting about Vladimir Putin in 2018.

      It’s all court gossip and click bait bullshit.

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        That would be the main hope, that once Trump’s “charisma” is taken out of the picture, MAGA might start to lose enthusiasm. But it would take some time for the MAGA momentum to wind down, and the authoritarians-in-waiting would be keen to consolidate power quickly and insulate themselves against the opinions of the masses. So then the next hope is that they all start fighting among themselves so hard that the damage any of them can do is limited.

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      I’m not too sure. Sure, he’s VP but he’s also not that popular with MAGA. If Trump would go (in whatever way possible) I’m sure it’ll lead to infighting.

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      I don’t know if even death will. Maybe he stops making public appearances for “national security reasons” and only communicates through video broadcasts. Anyone who notices something is slightly off about them, like frames where he has extra fingers or nonsense text on the papers on his desk is called a conspiracy theorist, and to shut up and celebrate the Dear Leader’s 170th birthday.

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        Anyone who notices something is slightly off about them, like frames where he has extra fingers or nonsense text on the papers on his desk is called a conspiracy theorist, and to shut up and celebrate the Dear Leader’s 170th birthday.

        The year is 2117. Either…

        A: AI still can’t generate video without a bunch of fucky artifacts.

        B: The Trump administration is still using janky AI from the 2020s, even though better options exist.

        Both sound plausible.

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        nonsense text on the papers on his desk

        I mean this wouldn’t necessarily indicate AI in this case

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      Sadly, the grim reaper pulled the actress that played Houlihan on mash out of the claw machine instead of trump.

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    The problem is that he’s always been a stupid, self-important blowhard that tells rambling, pointless stories, so his incoherence is less pronounced. Biden, for all his faults, was a great orator and debator, even around 2016 to 2018, so his drop-off in the last five years was a stark shift.

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    Stroke! Stroke! That or a McDouble widowmaker heartattack Supreme.